For Ornn we're currently trying a higher ult CD (140-100, versus live 130-70) plus a change to the W where he can be immobolized or displaced during it (the flame still continues, but he doesn't keep moving forwards if hit by a root or knockback or whatever)."

BALANCE TEAM HAS NO IDEA WHAT THE FK THEY ARE DOING

I LL TRY TO BE NICE

1. You buffed a new OP champion for no reason (HARD TO FORGIVE)
2. Now you are planning a change which does nothing - Cooldown change (FACEPALM)
3. Now you are doing a change which removes a skill expression (PENTA FACEPALM)

WHY WOULD THIS CHANGES EVEN NEED TESTING? BAD IDEAS CLEARLY

Ornn needs FKING NERF A MASSIVE ONE AT THAT

BUT NOT LIKE THIS DONT REMOVE SKILLCAP,

WHY ULTIMATE NERF. All the nerf posibilities, but yes his ultimate cooldown is a problem. THATS IT Bruisers and other cant do anything because he gets his ultimate in the same time RIGHT? RiGhT ??

Reminds me of recent 100% BACKWARDS cammile changes which WENT LIVE to further prove how uncapable balance team is

Shield duration increased to 2 seconds from 1.5. Precision Protocol Precision Protocol Time to use second cast increased to 3.5 seconds from 3. NEW EFFECT: Timer displays on icon showing second cast availability.

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Camille (Many of you wont know half stuff about her so here is a shortcut)

Its a well known by now Meddler and balance team only ocassionally play League and yes it is very fking obvious (also everyone is fking kassadin main).

But poske englighten us why are this changes bad

You see EVEN BEFORE THIS FKING CHANGES it didnt matter how you fought Cammile

Do you short trade against her?

# Good luck you see, She Autos>QS you and gains shield 1.5 sec long shield You dont wanna hit a shield do you of course not so back off Oh wait but she did gain ms so your walking away isnt going as planned, so you dash but now she does her undodgable AOE SLOW, plus she probably healed because your dash put her at maximun range you cant really dodge her jump slowed right? So you flash But oh wait She didnt jump she is still on her wall well not not anymore she zooms to you with her ultra long dash XD, she just gained bonus attackspeed, so I guess you still prefer short trades

Additional note she gains range on her Q auto, her auto resset cant be walked away off ever

Do you wonna long trade against her?

** Yep 10/10 you really showed her shield who is the boss, Oh she DID the double auto resset and a whole salto MOVE because you kept fighting 10/10But lets face it she could force her long trade anyway. Use mechanical move, OH SHIT she dodged it with her R what a beast player. Fast exit her ultimate while you are slowed/stuned guess. Why cant you just stat check her, Idk Maybe she HAS DOUBLE AUTO RESSET with her Q while each of her autos does bonus current hp% magic damage? Bought armor? To bad its magic damage, Bought HP? EVEN HER SALTO WHICH IS FORCED UPON YOU NO MATTER HOW YOU PLAY IT OUT DOES %HP MAX DAMAGE. So buy damage and kill her? Oh shit she just lCS big plays juked it with her ultimate/E , how do you burst someone through shield/heal anyway oh shit a long trade I guess you lost. Better luck next time**

Yes you can knock her out of her ultimate to stop it of course only 1 second later. Are you lee sin toplane or some shit though?

#Do you wonna out poke her?

You do realise her POKE FKING HEALS from typical poke range, goes over minions and cant really miss. (610 range) Are you ranged well guess what she can engage you any second and if she stat checks melee champions WHAT MAKES YOU THINK SHE wont stat check some ranged champion

(I actually dont mind this FK EVERY toplane ranged poker, fk melee pokers to infact)

#Do you outmacro her?

You do realise her roam is insane. She has one of the best ways of stopping TP to. Her mana costs arent a problem She is hard to gank. She can push normaly (doesnt she build titanic for more auto ressets anyway). She can push tower fast Her 2vs2 is good to as she can easly focus whatever she wants, even seperate stuff aoe heal etc

https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/diamond/plus/grid/

Cammile is curently master tier champion strenght wise. If she wasnt relativly new she would be Challenger tier NO debate

Do you wonna ZIG ZAG short trade her live for a sec then short trade her again Nope it doesnt fking work. It just doesnt. I Was hoping they would make this possible you know by

Reducing her shield duration BUT NO they do the opposite they increase it, Also her reactivation time IS NOW EVEN FKING HIGHER. By the time her SALTO MOVE is gone its bassicly up (Depending on cdr, Q is maxed first I guess to). Its not like you could avoid her salto move anyway.

Instead of Nerfing the durations to allow counterplay. THEY increase them

Instead of nerfing entire ADC Class they break Ezreal and vayne

Who is next? Sivir? I heard she is underperforming compared to ADC overlords (not compared to other classes of course)

Toplane state is sad atm. You would expect some counterplay against new-ish champ, But there are no good trade intervals

#Mechanical outplays bassicly dont exist in toplane. AND THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE PURE MECHANICAL 1VS1 ROLE

Every tank is just a dull no counterplay stat checker. Or they ll soon nerf them to be one (Removing skill expression from orn in a planned nerf) Soon Ornn ll become stat checker (atm orn has to high damage but there is counterplay) Try scorch aery malphite/olaf/poke champ.. they stat check everything and they can function in teamfights unlike bruisers

Ranged champions shouldnt be allowed to exist in toplane.. YET THEY FKING DOMINATE IT

Teleport is nessesary burden. You need it not to fall off and autolose to a single successful gank. YET IT DOESNT DO FKING ANYTHING SPECIALLY WITH THAT STUPID CHANNEL There are so many toplane generic matchups which you just cannot win without a jungler unless the enemy toplaner accidently falls of a chair while fighting

Its all about impacting botlane with Shen/Karthus/Gangplank, Picking tank the bramble stat checker, or Illaoi OK mate You hit your E I ll recall. Kleptomany makes the lane even worse. Ranged champions to. Atleast Twitch jungle with whore support lulu/kayle toplane/mid is legit new strategy YAY KAPPA (twitch farms top to for those who dont get it)

**And it wont get any better **

Even if meta massively shifts, to a normal season 3-4 style games we ll be up against kill you in stun duration irelia, Cammile the forced stat checker, Trynda the rng an allied inhibitor has been destroyed, hyperactive hasaki, a broken wing teamfighter

Edit: Fixed some typos