Braindead supports talk about skill when their entire playstyle is REACTIVE
meaning they wait for you to make a play and then overrun you with their point and click healing/shields/exhaust/locket and while your important CD's are down they straight up murder you .
A majority of the "skill" aspect in engaging is the fact that you have 1 chance to get it right, and if you fuck it up you don't have a way to escape. Alistar is a good example of this in the support role.
And then there's
. Where he just throws this entire concept out the fucking window because you can play like an absolute moron and get away with it. His 0 counterplay engages while ALSO being allowed to escape is unacceptable.
Fuck up an engage - YOU DIE. that's how it should be. Not whatever this brainless shit is