Why is it that Jax is never getting nerfed??

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Wow im defending jax despite jax hardcountering my main. Cant even lane against jax as camille and jax is not op, not broken. He is SO easy to beat. Just five minutes ago another jax that went 0/3, lost fb turret and was 80 CS down against me.Guess what i played an AA champ. . Just git fuckin gud.

it annoys the shit out of me how ACTUAL broken champs like urgot,like viktor, like sion, like kennen, like irelia, like akali, like lucian ruin the entire fuckin game cuz they get picked EVERY SINGLE GAME and instantly win everything due to how fuckin broken they are and yet all you people do is complain about fuckin jax and darius on these shitboards. When a player like ventair answers twitch chat he wouldnt advise playing jax currently cuz he is not good (you know talking to low elo players in his chat) but jax is SO BROKEN literally noone wants him on his team. Oh god jax can jump on me and i cannot melee rightclick him to death what is this mimimimi babyrage i have to move my character riot please nerf this is so op.

Edit: Holy fuckin shit you are actually a fuckin riven player. Are u joking? you call jax op and riven shit despite her being LITERALLY THE BEST CHAMPION TOP IN SOLOQ RIGHT NOW. Talking about jax "safety" when he has NO way to clear waves, no sustain and no ability to farm from range. Salty fuckin riven shitter because jax is one of the few champs you cannot just one combo into and kill him. WHO is actually biased? Riven that got NOTHING but MASSIVE buffs since 5.21 complaining about anything. MASSIVE base dmg buffs on ulti (150 base btw), better ratios, health regen from 1,3 to 7,5 DESPITE HER HAVING A SHIELD WITH NO RESOURCES, animation cancels made easier and easier. your champion gets buffed the moment he is not toptier anymore.

Wait, if you actually think that Riven is in a good state, then you need some serious help. Jax isn't broken, he is just strong. However Riven is in a really bad state right now. In fact no1 can play her except Riven OTPs and Riven mains. She got no Runes that works well with her, (Most take Spellbook) She can't build lethality anymore. Her shield is fine, but no where near viktor, sion, urgot, etc....

Buddy, keep your tone down. Stop being a salty kid and learn to keep a discussion in a peaceful manner.

First of all, Camille counters Jax. You can see it in pro play, soloq literally everywhere. Camille is one of the most obnoxious champs in the fucking game with her adaptive shield, her insane amount of true damage and her insane lockdown.

Second of all Riven is by no means strong. She is extremely item dependant and is by far the worst early top laner in the game. She scales well into the late game but by no means is she op. Nobody will tell you (except for hashinshin) that Riven is op. Literally nobody. Anything that goes toplane counters her ass. Renekton, Camille, Jax, Pantheon, Aatrox, Irelia, Viktor, Kled, Urgot. And the rest is literally skill matchup. Fuck even GP with resolve runes can make her laning as boring as it can be. Her early is literally dogshit and when the game favours early/mid game champs, Riven will just be a bad champ to anyone who doesn't main her.

Third of all, learn to fucking read. I never said Jax is op. I said he is frustrating just like how Zed can be annoying as fuck or any other champ that is hard to reach. Jax isn't bad he is above average which makes him clearly better than other champs and when a fucking RIGHT CLICK MELEE CHAMP IS "ABOVE AVERAGE" THAN HE IS FRUSTRATING TO PLAY AGAINST.

Instead of being toxic, how about you think a bit before and ask yourself: "why would someone say jax is frustrating to play against?" maybe then MAYBE you will understand that not everyone shares your opinion?

Is Viktor actually broken, or is it just the build he takes...? I don't remember the last time I heard people unanimously complain about Kennen, but then again, I don't go top lane very often.

jax is like the only thing hashinshin is right about, so they're really just strengthening their argument

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But his engage is also usually really telegraphed, and playing against him in lane is mostly about playing around his E especially if you're mostly auto based.

This also holds true in teamfights, if his E is down, he's probably going to wind up dead.

Depends. Jax has a way to cut those skill animations and hide them (Like Riven).

Also, there's some really interesting combinations once he has CDR which make him almost impossible to run from (Ward Jump max distance, Flash >Counterstrike is EXTREMELY hard to play around, and by the time the stun's over, he's got his Leap up again, so fat chance escaping after he counterstrikes)

And what is with Riven in teamfights? Ever tried to do a teamfight while flash is on cd? Literally anyone at high elo (i mean challenger by that) tries to avoid teamfights if they can because without flash rivens engage is as obvious as jaxs E engage. Her preparing her Qs alone is in indicator to wait out. Sorry but the "telegraphed" argument doesn't work if jax STILL wins the lane against her if the Jax player isnt braindead. The problem with Riven right now is that she doesnt have much dps to hold up against early lane bullies while her bullies has been buffed over the curse of patches. Riven buffs were all compensations.

I dont mean she is shit. She really isnt bad. But by no means is she the best. She is far from it. She is a pure soloq champ because of the many tools she has but she also comes with high risk.

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I really feel like what makes or breaks this matchup is also if Jax can get his E up after Darius E, but before a AA>W

Darius can also counter jax e with his e, if darius cant get away from jax e, he can pull jax right when it goes off. This gives a little mini stun after the pull is complete. Pretty much cancelling out Jax e.

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Woops, I forgot I was on the gameplay boards. No facts allowed.

Seeing as hes played a lot in masters and challenger... dunno where you are getting these "facts" from tbh but regardless his kit is overall cancer to play against and ofc hes not the only one but he should be on the list of reworks.