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Ad itemization is ridiculous...

TurretBud·2/8/2017, 12:35:50 AM·2 votes·2,122 views

http://image.prntscr.com/image/61ddbe3cae2f4cec83f7356a37fac56a.png The enemy team has fucking 4 Youmuu's, 3 Edge of nights, 2 dusk blades,2 phantom dancers, 2 mortal reminders and a mercurial scimitar... As an immobile mage player, fuck this. I literally feel completely irrelevant, do you know how frustrating a simple banshee's veil can be? Now I've got every ad champion under the sun with fucking absurd amounts of movespeed and utility from aggressive itemization, I feel practically useless.

Not to mention the fact that building tanky against full ad teams is still fucking irrelevant.

Let's say a riven builds Youmuu's, Merc, Edge, Cleaver, boots, and banshee's veil... That build makes me entirely useless. I remove her banshee's with an e or a q, and ult, she removes stun with merc, she pops edge, I have to remove that with an e before I can q to do any damage... And most likely I'm not even going to be able to land a q because she popped Youmuu's and has 4 dashes.

For mages to be relevant with this shit in the game, they have to be as stupidly busted as they are right now... Damage across the board is insane, making utility and movement infinitely more useful, dial back the damage, fix your damn game.

26 Comments

lolipopevelynn2/8/2017, 12:48:16 AM2 votes

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http://image.prntscr.com/image/61ddbe3cae2f4cec83f7356a37fac56a.png The enemy team has fucking 4 Youmuu's, 3 Edge of nights, 2 dusk blades,2 phantom dancers, 2 mortal reminders and a mercurial scimitar... As an immobile mage player, fuck this. I literally feel completely irrelevant, do you know how frustrating a simple banshee's veil can be? Now I've got every ad champion under the sun with fucking absurd amounts of movespeed and utility from aggressive itemization, I feel practically useless.

Not to mention the fact that building tanky against full ad teams is still fucking irrelevant.

Let's say a riven builds Youmuu's, Merc, Edge, Cleaver, boots, and banshee's veil... That build makes me entirely useless. I remove her banshee's with an e or a q, and ult, she removes stun with merc, she pops edge, I have to remove that with an e before I can q to do any damage... And most likely I'm not even going to be able to land a q because she popped Youmuu's and has 4 dashes.

For mages to be relevant with this shit in the game, they have to be as stupidly busted as they are right now... Damage across the board is insane, making utility and movement infinitely more useful, dial back the damage, fix your damn game.

All I see is "I didn't buy hourglass".

Your own fault kid

DJ Lucio2/8/2017, 12:38:37 AM1 votes

your team is building MR against an almost full AD team?

Dynikus2/8/2017, 12:41:25 AM1 votes

Not to mention the fact that building tanky against full ad teams is still fucking irrelevant.

Except building tanky is how you counter lethality. Which literally only your singed did. No one else built much of any armor. Your team built poorly into their comp and lost because of it, that's it.

ValyrianBlade2/8/2017, 12:49:58 AM1 votes

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http://image.prntscr.com/image/61ddbe3cae2f4cec83f7356a37fac56a.png The enemy team has fucking 4 Youmuu's, 3 Edge of nights, 2 dusk blades,2 phantom dancers, 2 mortal reminders and a mercurial scimitar... As an immobile mage player, fuck this. I literally feel completely irrelevant, do you know how frustrating a simple banshee's veil can be? Now I've got every ad champion under the sun with fucking absurd amounts of movespeed and utility from aggressive itemization, I feel practically useless.

Not to mention the fact that building tanky against full ad teams is still fucking irrelevant.

Let's say a riven builds Youmuu's, Merc, Edge, Cleaver, boots, and banshee's veil... That build makes me entirely useless. I remove her banshee's with an e or a q, and ult, she removes stun with merc, she pops edge, I have to remove that with an e before I can q to do any damage... And most likely I'm not even going to be able to land a q because she popped Youmuu's and has 4 dashes.

For mages to be relevant with this shit in the game, they have to be as stupidly busted as they are right now... Damage across the board is insane, making utility and movement infinitely more useful, dial back the damage, fix your damn game.

1 - you're complaining about AD options and yet look at the 3 items in your build - ALL THREE OF THEM HAVE HEALTH (counting Seraph's shield as health) (and your fourth item has started as a Giant's belt). Like seriously? Why do mages get to have such good itemization that they can build high damage items and be tanky as all hell? It's no wonder Ryze is broken...

2 - Cassio is supposed to lose to champions like Riven. Anyone that can get in her face and avoid the ult wrecks her. That's called a counter. Cassio needs a front line to prevent champions like Riven from getting on her face.

3 - Your team was AP heavy. AP heavy teams are very rare compared to AD heavy teams, and thus have always been considerably weaker. It's much easier to make magic damage irrelevant than it is physical damage. Often tanks only build 1 big MR item and 2-3 big armor items because magic damage is less threatening (which greatly benefits the mage since they often don't face much resistance from the enemy). When your team has 3 heavy magic damage dealers plus Varus (so just dodge his arrow) that's a pretty weak team comp. Obviously they're going to get some MR, I'm shocked Maw wasn't in there too.

InfinitexMortal2/8/2017, 12:52:09 AM1 votes

I agree the new ad items are toxic

ZerglingOne2/8/2017, 12:55:04 AM1 votes

Edge of night can't be used in combat. Any damage taken prevents the shield.

AD itemization isn't the problem, damage is just too high in general and burst has almost no counter right now. People are literally being 1 or 2-shotted and there's very little time to react and very little that can be done about it even when there is time.

Jmman2/8/2017, 1:03:31 AM1 votes

I love how every ignores the fact that almost EVERY ad champ has the same base build.... Its really sad the amount of bias items wise. Its makes me feel bad for the people trying to defend it too.

Handy Sandy 2/8/2017, 12:37:46 AM1 votes

And yet only singed has a decent amount of armor. As Cassiopeia, at LEAST get a item 3157.

Ark Sorcerer2/8/2017, 1:12:36 AM1 votes

The thing is, Riot is nerfing the stupidly busted mages, say Syndra. She is an immobile burst mage, but they nerf her ult because... why?

Currently waiting for Veigar, Syndras older and stronger burster brother to be nerfed.