Brand's AP ratios are criminally low. Something to think about when buffing him for mid.

Khristophoros··3 votes·516 views

All of his ratios got nerfed during his last remake which moved all his power into his passive 3 stack. This is why he's only good at support. Sure, the passive has an AP ratio but most of the damage is free % health damage.

Another problem is that his ult took the biggest hit and basically does 0 damage. It's only there to stack his passive. In teamfights Brand relies too much on all the positioning being just perfect to get 3stacks on multiple enemies because his damage is too low without doing that. It's too easy for the enemy team to avoid that unless Brand's team comp is a crazy wombo combo, but then you would have Orianna mid, not Brand.

So he needs higher AP ratios straight up.

There's also issues with the mechanics of his kit. Landing stuff is too hard in league of mobility. Every time I play him I feel like I'm working hard and everyone else is facerolling.

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PopcornBunni2 votes

I don't play him, but he's a combo mage, with different effects for each combo right? Maybe have his AP ratios focused into those bonus effects, so he can't just face roll with spell rotations but still has scaling power when played properly.

Khristophoros2 votes

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I don't play him, but he's a combo mage, with different effects for each combo right? Maybe have his AP ratios focused into those bonus effects, so he can't just face roll with spell rotations but still has scaling power when played properly.

Yes. He has an interesting kit because there are 4 possible combo openers that give you different things because each skill applies his passive and gets a bonus effect if the passive is already on them. So your first skill will always miss out on its bonus. That is what creates the choice between different combos.

Bonus effects: Q stuns. W does 25% more damage including the AP ratio, but it's only 0.6 base so it's not really anything special. E does AoE damage. It does crappy damage though. It's only good because it spreads more stacks of his passive. R slows the target. I am not sure how good this is, never really noticed it.

The problem is his AP ratios are just very low.

Fütanari1 votes

He deserves more nerfs. he does shit loads of damage already. his ult can wipe out a entire team.

GrievousFetus2 votes

If you know this don't clump up. He has one of the most telegraphed kits in the game with only medium range and no mobility and unreliable single target CC.

Khristophoros2 votes

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He deserves more nerfs. he does shit loads of damage already. his ult can wipe out a entire team.

His ult does 100/200/300 + 0.25 AP per bounce, 4 bounces so 5 total hits.

That is 500/1000/1500 + 125% total damage... no I'm pretty sure an entire team has more combined health than that. It's barely enough to kill 1 guy, but you can't get all hits to hit 1 guy.

The only thing he gets out of ulting is a bunch of stacks of his passive. If he theoretically gets all 5 enemies to full stacks by hitting a perfect AoE combo with all his skills, then he would pentakill. But only bronze players would actually let that happen. I've never seen it before.

GrievousFetus1 votes

Why would Riot have any interest in buffing him for mid? Becoming a support is the best thing that happened to him. Brand was never a super relevant or important/powerful mid (unlike Zyra when she was released). Whenever I see people say they want Brand "to be a midlaner again" what they're really saying is "I want Brand to be terrible and irrelevant and I don't like laning against him in botlane because supports that do damage upset me".

Besides, if you buffed Brand's ratios you'd just play him support anyway and he'd be even more powerful.

Khristophoros1 votes

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Why would Riot have any interest in buffing him for mid? Becoming a support is the best thing that happened to him. Brand was never a super relevant or important/powerful mid (unlike Zyra when she was released). Whenever I see people say they want Brand "to be a midlaner again" what they're really saying is "I want Brand to be terrible and irrelevant and I don't like laning against him in botlane because supports that do damage upset me".

Besides, if you buffed Brand's ratios you'd just play him support anyway and he'd be even more powerful.

It doesn't matter. They've already stated that they plan to buff him for mid lane. So we could argue about whether it's good or not but it doesn't matter, because they are doing it.

Tworie1 votes

His passive needs to be nerfed more before he can get buffs. He can already burst people by just rushing Sorcerers Shoes as a support.

Khristophoros1 votes

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His passive needs to be nerfed more before he can get buffs. He can already burst people by just rushing Sorcerers Shoes as a support.

I'm ok with that. He is too dependent on his passive.

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