Mind nerfing Manamune?

Inari Fox Orrion·Apr 26, 2019·2 votes·1,572 views

Actually, maybe (since this is a better idea) just nerf Ezreal himself, or make Muramana unable to proc twice on his W, on top of the automatic proc you get from Q, E and your AAs.

All I know is that, as of now, his AD builds always involve Muramana because of how stupidly-busted he is with it in tow. It outclasses his AP build, it outclasses any other build you can find. He is a problem, combined with Muramana.

I'd much prefer to be able to build AP if I felt comfortable landing skill-shots and being squishy, in return for increased DPS. I'd much prefer to be able to build AS vs. tough teams full of tanks... but as of now, how powerful he is with Muramana drowns all of that out.

11 Comments

QuephaApr 26, 20192 votes

If Ezreal with Muramana is busted, why not just nerf Ezreal?

Muramana is a really cool item concept and I wish it were viable on more than just Ezreal.

Inari Fox OrrionApr 26, 20191 votes

That's also a decent solution. Muramana is one hell of a neat item. I think it could be a mix of him being busted and the bugs with the item, though, where he can proc it numerous times when he shouldn't be able to. His W > Q combo alone procs it thrice.

xDogMeatxApr 26, 20191 votes

all i can think of is AD kassadin or mana kayle.

Ninjas FlossingApr 26, 20191 votes

listen bud, i dont know where you got that runic echos procs muramana 4 times but thats not true at all. to be sure ive tested it. it doesnt multi proc

Inari Fox OrrionApr 26, 20191 votes

Read it again. I'm not saying Runic Echoes is responsible; His W procs it once if his W detonates, his Q procs it once, for some reason his mixed Q and W procs a third time (because the detonation itself is a single-target ability), and Runic Echoes' initial burst procs it a fourth time on the initial target. It's a lot of burst, and then you count in his AA, his second Q, and it gets ridiculous. I'd rather have 4 or 5 Muramana procs from three abilities and an AA, not 6.

It's also a bit stupid to have someone building tank items but dealing extreme damage nonetheless because of his obtuse interaction with certain on-hit items.

Ninjas FlossingApr 26, 20191 votes

it absolutely does not do that, i TESTED it before posting, and it does not proc 4 times

Inari Fox OrrionApr 27, 20191 votes

Alright then. It proccing even three times from Q and W is too much, nonetheless.

Ninjas FlossingApr 27, 20191 votes

it procs ONCE

KazekibaApr 26, 20191 votes

Or maybe Mundo should build some MR?

Ezreal was a significantly better player with mid Gold MMR than the rest of the Bronze team he's with due to a loss streak + his current actual rank.

Runic Echos + Gunblade + Trinity is a LOT of damage. Ezreal does plenty of Magic damage as well as Physical, so armor alone isnt going to mitigate it much. It just wasn't a good pick or a good build into that comp.

Inari Fox OrrionApr 26, 20191 votes

That doesn't really involve much of my post, I was just explaining that the game might've contributed to my thoughts but it sure isn't the source of them. Ez's abuse of on-hit items and bugs is part of what makes him such a problem, even if he's otherwise pretty balanced. In this case, there's a major issue with proccing Muramana quad in one hit; When it becomes more widespread of an issue, people will be complaining about it en-masse. I don't want to wait until I have an Ez in every game abusing it.