To people that are still banning Darius, Garen, Fiora, Morde, and Skarner.

5 Stacks GG·Sep 17, 2015·4 votes·1,179 views

Those champion got nerfed and aren't a problem anymore, you are wasting precious bans, I'd recommend you to ban fizz, wukong, nidalee, riven and vayne instead.

26 Comments

AnomanderSep 17, 20155 votes

Fiora is still a legit ban as is skarner. They might not be as powerful but they are still strong. I agree with the vayne ban. Not because she is op I just hate vayne.

Wukong is not op. Fizz got nerf hard not long ago so is only REALLY good as a ap which limits his split push power that ad fizz had. Nidalee is only good if she gets ahead. RIven is hard countered by a lot of champions. The only reason she is scary right now is because of a new script that is going around. Once RIOT gets a way to ban the scripters RIVEN will fall off again.

5 Stacks GGSep 17, 20151 votes

fizz nerfs didn't do shit he still cancer who does way too much dmg with how hard to kill he is

CaythelesSep 17, 20152 votes

Fizz has many counterplay items and champions, a smart player would see if an enemy is going to pick fizz and attempt a Swicharoo with one of his teammates, Learn to play around Fizz and stop complaining, I believe you can do it !!!

FowusSep 18, 20151 votes

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fizz nerfs didn't do shit he still cancer who does way too much dmg with how hard to kill he is

just be glad bruiser tank fizz is weak now

LuggSep 18, 20153 votes

The Darius "nerf" was a joke. He is completely pick/ban right now. Same thing with Fiora. Garen is still very strong, but probably not perma-ban now, same with Skarner.

alfavhunterSep 17, 20152 votes

Darius is still stupidly strong

5 Stacks GGSep 17, 20151 votes

against nubs ya

alfavhunterSep 17, 20151 votes

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against nubs ya

You realize his self heal got buffed in team fights right?

And that mana nerf is laughable, Darius that actually know how to play him had no mana issues at all, 20 more mana on Q won't do much at all

5 Stacks GGSep 17, 20151 votes

nobody with a brain will let darius hit 3 ppl with blade, but anyway I agree they should nerf his heal again

MealReadytoEatSep 18, 20151 votes

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You realize his self heal got buffed in team fights right?

And that mana nerf is laughable, Darius that actually know how to play him had no mana issues at all, 20 more mana on Q won't do much at all

You are completely wrong if you think he's getting three hits off on his Q more than one or two, at any stage of the game. And 20 mana is pretty noticeable with his mana pool on the ability he spams non-stop.

He's still fairly strong, no doubt, but these nerfs certainly hit him.

alfavhunterSep 18, 20151 votes

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You are completely wrong if you think he's getting three hits off on his Q more than one or two, at any stage of the game. And 20 mana is pretty noticeable with his mana pool on the ability he spams non-stop.

He's still fairly strong, no doubt, but these nerfs certainly hit him.

His laning self heal did get nerfed, his team fight self heal got buffed, and 20 mana at late game is nothing, he didn't go oom at all with Q spam before, all this change does is make it so he will slowly lose mana now when spamming it

He can still mindlessly spam it, just for about a minute now instead of endless, and very few team fights have him spamming it for a minute... He had no mana issues before, raising the cost on 1 spell won't change that when it's a +5 mana per lvl... It's a slap on the wrist

What they should have done was buff his ability to be counter played

Being inside the Qs range should deal 0 damage, because outdistancing it or being to close should be the way to dodge his Q, even at 50% damage it still chunks a squishy

MealReadytoEatSep 18, 20151 votes

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His laning self heal did get nerfed, his team fight self heal got buffed, and 20 mana at late game is nothing, he didn't go oom at all with Q spam before, all this change does is make it so he will slowly lose mana now when spamming it

He's not going to land 3 man blade hits more than 2 man blade hits at any point of the game, including teamfights.

And the increased mana maters a lot until late game, its the skill he's maxing first.

PennsSep 17, 20152 votes

Fizz actually has a shit load of counterplay/ items. Just dont feed him in lane or at level 6 and youre good. Most of those juggernaut nerfs didnt really do anything tho lol.

5 Stacks GGSep 17, 20151 votes

yes they did

Icestar1186Sep 18, 20152 votes

Who bans Wukong?

redniwediSSep 17, 20151 votes

Don't forget Vi.

Rustling BushSep 17, 20152 votes

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Don't forget Vi.

vi is pretty balanced though

redniwediSSep 17, 20151 votes

Balanced, but also ban worthy.

BattleOxeSep 17, 20151 votes

Nidalee??? Isn't that thing nerfed to the ground already?

5 Stacks GGSep 17, 20151 votes

NIdalee is so fucking annoying and I see her constantly in my games.

GodarenSep 17, 20152 votes

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NIdalee is so fucking annoying and I see her constantly in my games.

she's pretty weak tbh

CaythelesSep 17, 20151 votes

She may have high burst, but squishier than Zacs structure. One good CC from the support and that cherry will pop ;)

2000boxesSep 17, 20151 votes

what's with the season 4 bans

Secret Butt FunSep 17, 20151 votes

Riot: Accidentally buffing champions when they intended to "nerf" them since 2014.

Dat 36% heal though.

They can fix Darius if they just changed his % heal into a flat heal, then he'd be perfect. So easy.

alfavhunterSep 17, 20151 votes

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Riot: Accidentally buffing champions when they intended to "nerf" them since 2014.

Dat 36% heal though.

They can fix Darius if they just changed his % heal into a flat heal, then he'd be perfect. So easy.

It should heal 40/60/80/100/120+5% missing hp up to 2 targets for 240+10% missing hp, which keeps it strong, without being ungodly self healing... For an ability that can be used every 3 seconds late game...

5 Stacks GGSep 18, 20151 votes

^ I want them to do that exactly