Keep buffing Ekko Riot

That's a very very exaggerated statement.

Ekko's damage is much lower than all other assassins, even when all his items are offensive. He can't 3 shot unless he's ahead and is building only offensive items. Tank Ekko does very low damage, unless extremely ahead.

I don't get the Ekko hate. Unless he's ludicrously fed, tank Ekko does really low damage. He's a bigger threat if he builds hybrid damage/defense items like RoA, Abyssal, Iceborn. Even then he doesn't have enough damage to reliably assassinate someone and can't kill squishies unless the team let him beat on them for 5+ seconds.

And even still, he HAS to be able to do damage while going somewhat tanky. He actually has some risk to him unlike most assassins as his damage is pretty difficult to land. He can't go full AP or he dies before he can even dash to where his W lands.

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Cuz theres nothing wrong with an assassin building tank and still 3 shotting.

If it takes you more than two shots, you're doing it wrong....

Full tank Ekko does lousy damage. If you cared to look up his base stats and actually know what you're talking about you'd see...but why let that get in the way of your truthiness and scary stories of 3-shots?

A 100% successful full combo by full tank Ekko (difficult to pull off) does only marginally (but barely) better damage than Mao or Sejuani and less in fact than Nautilus. Those champs, however, are tankier and have far better and more reliable peel/initiate/disruption.

He can't 3 shot you while building tank. He can barely 3 shot you while building AP. -_- At level 18 if he goes full tank his full combo without ult deals 640 (+170% AP) damage. That's pitiful considering his Q is unreliable and can be dodged. Lelbna's full combo is more reliable, faster, and has higher base damage. She can't cc you like ekko can but she can destroy you much faster. Her base damage full combo at level 18 is 1435, and you're complaining about ekko's 640 lol.

Does not make you a tank...This is a BRUISER at best, and far less tanky than the majority of bruisers in the meta right now.

Tank Ekko is already dead, but melee AP champs always build semi-defensively, anyway. He's not 3-shotting anyone, though, unless you mean going in and out 3 times before he actually gets a kill.

I thought Ekko was an AP DPS.... His only real burst comes from his execute and his ult

I may be wrong... hiatus too long

Well he doesn't have the kind of damage that other assassins have.

Full ap is way more fun

and in situations better.

in my eyes tank is for people who want forgiveness for messing up

Just my thoughts though from a low elo ekko main.

he hasnt recieved a nerf since like 2 patches after his release

Tankko almost completely left back when Xmithie + Korea + Shook I think (who played it and did kinda okay but people bashed his build after the game because nobody was using it, including Korea) got it gutted. His new jungle build is kinda tanky, but is still not full tank, nor powerful enough to 3-shot.

ekko has the least burst of any assassin. you have to build lichbane to get close to being an assassin. what does he have? passive plus E and both Qs will only 100-0 a squishy if your ahead and even then thats way slower than zed leblanc talon or even lux which isn't even an assassin. hes a diving fighter not an assassin. and if he builds tanks he won't do any damage compared to volibear nasus

They haven't even buffed his damage, only CD's and Mana costs...

People are still doing that tank thing?

They didn't even touch his damage though

i know right and even now

Just had a match yesterday where an Ekko was 19 / 4 / 17. He was very hard to deal with, and did too much damage for anybody to tolerate. He had pure tank items, except for Runic and Luden Echoes too. It baffled me when I saw Ekko buffs on the pbe 2-3 weeks ago, because 2 months ago, two Rioters, including one of his creators, admitted Ekko had an overloaded kit that was hard to balance.

I am an Ekko Main I love that you can build him, AP built off his skills, AD build off his passive, or hybrid to deal with everyone, but the problem is Ekko was placed as a skirmisher assasin, one of the characters who has to set up his kills to assasinate other champs, but lately everyones powerlevels are so high every champ can practically play everywhere in this meta (adc, support junglers) I really enjoy ekko because i started this game in patch 5.14 and he was the champ i most realated too because he was not only new but i love his story and time control. Yes, people complain about Ekko ULT its a redo... but hello if your an assasin champion who can be 10/0 and get one shotted by a lee sin jg who was 1/7 and 3 levels under by one q and ult (cant ult threw that or i had no mana dont remeber, but full health for sure) I out played him the entire game and still got wrecked patch 6.3. So his ult has to be placed and 4 seconds prior like it is so difficult but fun! His kit is unique and fun for me to play maybe im a bit baised but poking the carries of this game like garen, mundo, tyrndamere, quinns, vaynes, and much more ekko just cannot delete champs and get these massive streaks. BTW ekko is a champ who relies heavily on his mana, but starts with the one of the smallest health and mana pulls (so wasting an ult for a redo i think is somewhat fair) but when Ekko is 10/0 I should be able to delete any compition, only way I get a kill or get ksed is landing a stun, even when i want to land the stun! now 4 seconds trying to run away from the udyrs and garens and mundos is just intense we cannot out run alot of champs which causes so many problems but even with the RADIUS of his ult being nerfed we miss our ults all the time because its just on the tip... tbh Ekko is in a somewhat position but on the lower half he got Nuked with too many nerfs, even though his kit is hard to balance it is about to be his one year aniversary, I CANNOT WAIT !!! but I hope to see two available skins, one ULTIMATE LIKE UDYR because I love how that one guy in all chat, even though i watch it all the time he is an Ekko fan (asain one). but people really have mixed opinions but Ekko is my boy! I do enjoy the new reworks with him, but I hope he has the same kit its cool, maybe a few necessary buffs maybe having his thunderlord proc on the third hit instead of second XD would help so it would stack with his passive! cuz it applies every second hit if u have thunderlords, which makes no sense. but anyway, a Fed Ekko should be able to carry as a skirmisher assasin rather then TANKO