Would it be too strong if the finished Support Item...

BLIGHTBRINGER··6 votes·3,725 views

Would it be too strong if the finished Support Item, replaced the regular wards with Control Wards? Or atleast having the last Ward from the item be a Control Ward?

After playing a few games as a Support, during late game it kind of sucks that when clearing Wards you have to auto attack them 3 times (and it's kinda bad because you have low Attack Speed) and when there are multiple Wards in one area you can't clear them all in time. Assuming you are at full build you won't have the space for a Control Ward in your inventory.

The reason why I came up with this is that Supports lack the ability to clear wards, while everyone else, even Assassin's with Duskblade can just auto attack them once to destroy them.

##What are your thoughts on Ward clearing and Control Wards/Vision during late game?

15 Comments

Darkstar Annie3 votes

Man speaking of wards, it is EXTREMELY frustrating to be attacking and then the ward disappears right on the last hit. They NEED to remain visible if they have been attacked within 1 second ago... This is a serious punishment support. Ive resorted to dropping a pink ward just to finish killing a stupid ward with 1 hit left.

Disabled Support1 votes

I think another way to redemiate this is to have your fully built + stacked support item (item 3092 item 3401 item 3069) do two hits to a ward instead of one since, as you mentioned, a lot of supports don't auto cancel (Leona)or have attack speed to take all the wards. I also find it frustrating to have my sweeping lense go off as soon as my last auto goes off but it gets cancelled because the ward immediately goes back into stealth, so another redemiation could be having a short control ward effect after sweeping ends just to clear up that one last ward.

BLIGHTBRINGER1 votes

What if the finished Support item granted +X% (+100% I think would be ideal) Attack Speed when attacking a ward?

Disabled Support1 votes

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What if the finished Support item granted +X% (+100% I think would be ideal) Attack Speed when attacking a ward?

Yeah that works too, anything to make warding less torturous late game honestly [slayer-jinx-unamused]

NekoniClaws1 votes

No...... it'd be too weak. Those stealth wards from trinket have a use. And as a sup I generally don't worry about hitting full build!

Atmosphere1 votes

Any high elo support will tell you 3 control wards>>>>>>>>>>>>>a last item. Never give up vision control for the sake of a full build on a support

Atmosphere1 votes

I've literally seen cases where coaches will get mad at players for buying an item instead of control wards lol. Vision control becomes more and more important as the game goes on. Good vision is the difference between a successful baron bait and getting Blitz hooked over a wall and the game ending

saltran1 votes

Would it be too strong if the finished Support Item, replaced the regular wards with Control Wards? Or atleast having the last Ward from the item be a Control Ward?

If every ward from the Support item was a control ward that would be the most gigabroken item in the game and by far.

If only the last was a control ward...well, now we are talking about something that could go on without breaking the game.

BLIGHTBRINGER1 votes

If every ward from the Support item was a control ward that would be the most gigabroken item in the game and by far.

Yeah agreed. I hope the second suggestion is more reasonable.

Alzon1 votes

A support is probably reaching full build in less than one out of a hundred games with the current meta. Until fitting control wards in a full build becomes a more prominent issue, nothing will be done about it.

Warlord Rhinark1 votes

The only problem with this is that you can only place 1 Control Ward at a time, meaning having all Wards become Control Wards would be pointless.

The way to fix this would be making it so that the last Ward you place is a Control Ward, but then you have to dump all your other Wards somewhere just so you can get a Control Ward.

It's going to feel unsatisfying either way.

I'd much rather have a buff to the Support Items in some other capacity, like reducing how much the base Support Item costs down to 375 so you can at least still buy Faerie Charm and one Health Potion, or one Health Potion and a Control Ward if you want to.

JAYYYYYYYYYYYYCE1 votes

Mate if that happens im going to be building support item and get me free 3 control wards no matter what role im playing

Vlada Cut1 votes

Yes. Would give free gold to enemy team without buying control wards themsevles. Gettin gree 90 gold from 3 supprt item's controlwards would not be okay or productive at all.

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