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360 armor malphite dies in 2.1 seconds

MunchCrunchLunch··97 votes·6,873 views

against a 80% ad team

260 armor ekko dies in 1.25 seconds against a full ad team

fuck tank stats. and fuck this game's balance. utter BS that is incomprehensible.

2.7k damage taken in 1.25 seconds thats 90% of it was physical despite having ninja tabies and 260 armor and no last whisper on the enemy team. ridiculous bullshit.

meanwhile enemy jinx gets 200 health every auto. standing right next to a no mr no lifesteal quinn as a thornmail malphite with sunfire cape tabis and 350+ armor and she was outdamaging me with no armor penetration. despite me being ahead. its literally impossible for me to be ""oh am bad at league:" i agree" these kind of comments. am standing right next to a quinn with 0 mr items. 0 lifesteal. and thornmail wasn't doing jack shit of any damage that was visible to the microscope. 3 ad carries on the opposite team and graves is tankier than a full tank ekko against a full ad team. and gets 300 health every auto.

the only way to tank any freakin damage is if your 15k gold ahead and the enemy adc has one and half items. and you have 3 and half items. otherwise your dying just as fast as anybody else on the team.

feels absolutely awful to play anything and get one shot by any ad carry. absolutely awful. having only 120 mr against their most fed member. the lux. and i was not taking much of any damage from her. but no its only fair that quinn and vayne can do 1.5k damage a second to a 350 armor malphite. fantastic stuff.

it feels awful to play an assassin in a team fight only for the adc to have a dash or flash out of your burst and kill you in half of a second.

192 Comments

Only Play Darius75 votes

Yep, and the ADC's are complaining it's a "tank meta".

Man the things I would say about them if it wouldn't get me banned

Niaphim19 votes

In every patch ADCs complain about the class that is the most difficult for them to kill, and sadly this class is probably going to get nerfed

Akenero5 votes

I play vayne, varus, koggles, draven, and Ashe every so often. Tanks can hug me and my black cleaver vayne(if the situation arises)

TyroneWatermelon3 votes

Attack speed/armor pen/ap/crit it doesn't matter,just keep right clicking as Vayne

General Levi7 votes

You are just bad if you compain about vayne killing tanks.

TyroneWatermelon7 votes

I am bad as a player for complaining about max ho true damage on ranged right clicks?

Tychusfindlay9196 votes

{quoted}

I am bad as a player for complaining about max ho true damage on ranged right clicks?

She's also very squishy.

I've seen vayne's rage like no tomorrow when I get a single decimate with noxian might and then proceed to dunk them for pretty much the entirety of their HP.

TyroneWatermelon7 votes

Squishy/tanky/multi-dimensional paranormal entity,doesn't matter,max ho true damage will forever be a toxic concept especially when compared Vayne to fiora,fiora need to melee range dance and not simply right click from range

Van der Bellen15 votes

Uhh Fed Rengar kills me quickly while im splitpushing alone rito pls nerf him Rengar op hurr durr

Ariel the Cruel6 votes

That could be a legitimate complaint if you're playing Tryndamere . ;p

Umbra Ionia6 votes

Trynda is a melee adc so...

DeathBurst7 votes

That's when everyone is complaining about everything that you know the game is balanced.

IceKingChernobog10 votes

[{quoted}](name=Jelly Mac,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eEge0UIi,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2016-08-11T11:16:34.701+0000)

Yep, and the ADC's are complaining it's a "tank meta".

Man the things I would say about them if it wouldn't get me banned

As an adc main, you are right it's not a tank meta. It's "Clown fiesta bot to take down the enemy's bot lane tower to get 400+ gold to snow ball your team" meta

WolfChases38 votes

Meanwhile rework assassins because no one should be able to kill ADCs.

Depárt26 votes

Show proof of your claims, with no armor pen items vs 300+ armor malphite against AD, it's going to take well over 5 seconds of free hitting him.

Edit: OP complains about dying as a tank to one of the champions in the game made to shred tanks quickly.

Akenero14 votes

I've had over 700 armor on malphite. The poor random(who was on my friends list) tryndamere had to ult before I hit 3/4 hp :3

lolipopevelynn13 votes

{quoted}

Show proof of your claims, with no armor pen items vs 300+ armor malphite against AD, it's going to take well over 5 seconds of free hitting him.

Edit: OP complains about dying as a tank to one of the champions in the game made to shred tanks quickly.

actually this is more about him ulting 1v5 into a full AD team and thinking he would actually live that 1v5. gurantee you that is what happened, see it all the time. "herr my 300 armor cant tank 5 champions!"

Captain Aishi19 votes

my record is 4.4k hp 380 armor hecarim dying in 1.81 seconds to caitlyn/zed/pantheon, so count yourself lucky :P

dapositiveviking18 votes

obviously it was the magic damage from pantheons stun that took you under, gotta itemize for that mixed damage :p

Captain Aishi19 votes

the zed passive and cait net were brutal too :S

JZPorkins18 votes

assuming since ye said malphite it was this game? http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2263975153/230990992?tab=stats might need a bit of health bromine.

Warlord Zudane5 votes

... he also had 2 deaths. So complaining that a tank died not just once - but twice, when other teammates are at 5-6 deaths seems a bit overkill on whining.

Deaths happen sometimes, and when everybody focuses you - you die pretty fast regardless of who you are.

Meep Man14 votes

Well, Im guessing you had all armor and no health, which completely defeats the purpose of armor. Otherwise, Im calling a lie without the match history overview. Also, if you are diving head first into a 1v3-5, I am not surprised. You are just one person, even as a Tank don't expect to just survive in a 1v3-5.

aezens10 votes

Even without runes and masteries malphite has 2100 base hp and with 360 armor he would have almost 10k effective hp. 2,7k damage per 1,25 sec is about 4,5 sec survivability. I think he is just bad at math.

Champion Skin4 votes

Well the enemy team probably had item 3036 and at least one person on an all AD team probably make use of item 3071 making it so that the armor would be a lot less effective

YJRBqwXJcS13 votes

{quoted}

against a 80% ad team

260 armor ekko dies in 1.25 seconds against a full ad team

fuck tank stats. and fuck this game's balance. utter BS that is incomprehensible.

2.7k damage taken in 1.25 seconds thats 90% of it was physical despite having ninja tabies and 260 armor and no last whisper on the enemy team. ridiculous bullshit.

meanwhile enemy jinx gets 200 health every auto. standing right next to a no mr no lifesteal quinn as a thornmail malphite with sunfire cape tabis and 350+ armor and she was outdamaging me with no armor penetration. despite me being ahead. its literally impossible for me to be ""oh am bad at league:" i agree" these kind of comments. am standing right next to a quinn with 0 mr items. 0 lifesteal. and thornmail wasn't doing jack shit of any damage that was visible to the microscope. 3 ad carries on the opposite team and graves is tankier than a full tank ekko against a full ad team. and gets 300 health every auto.

the only way to tank any freakin damage is if your 15k gold ahead and the enemy adc has one and half items. and you have 3 and half items. otherwise your dying just as fast as anybody else on the team.

feels absolutely awful to play anything and get one shot by any ad carry. absolutely awful. having only 120 mr against their most fed member. the lux. and i was not taking much of any damage from her. but no its only fair that quinn and vayne can do 1.5k damage a second to a 350 armor malphite. fantastic stuff.

it feels awful to play an assassin in a team fight only for the adc to have a dash or flash out of your burst and kill you in half of a second.

quinn had lord dominiks

and vayne has true damage

whats good.

TeCoolMage10 votes

*plays ADC* Tank: triggered

*plays tank* Mage: triggered

*plays mage* ADC: triggered

meanwhile...

Assassin: lel I haz AD, escape AND burst lelelelelelel Support: Screw you I have CC Assassin: triggered

Support wins

PermabannedGaren9 votes

{quoted}

against a 80% ad team

260 armor ekko dies in 1.25 seconds against a full ad team

fuck tank stats. and fuck this game's balance. utter BS that is incomprehensible.

2.7k damage taken in 1.25 seconds thats 90% of it was physical despite having ninja tabies and 260 armor and no last whisper on the enemy team. ridiculous bullshit.

meanwhile enemy jinx gets 200 health every auto. standing right next to a no mr no lifesteal quinn as a thornmail malphite with sunfire cape tabis and 350+ armor and she was outdamaging me with no armor penetration. despite me being ahead. its literally impossible for me to be ""oh am bad at league:" i agree" these kind of comments. am standing right next to a quinn with 0 mr items. 0 lifesteal. and thornmail wasn't doing jack shit of any damage that was visible to the microscope. 3 ad carries on the opposite team and graves is tankier than a full tank ekko against a full ad team. and gets 300 health every auto.

the only way to tank any freakin damage is if your 15k gold ahead and the enemy adc has one and half items. and you have 3 and half items. otherwise your dying just as fast as anybody else on the team.

feels absolutely awful to play anything and get one shot by any ad carry. absolutely awful. having only 120 mr against their most fed member. the lux. and i was not taking much of any damage from her. but no its only fair that quinn and vayne can do 1.5k damage a second to a 350 armor malphite. fantastic stuff.

it feels awful to play an assassin in a team fight only for the adc to have a dash or flash out of your burst and kill you in half of a second.

What a liar.

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2263975153/230990992?tab=overview

Also, consider buying health you scrub.

Jeanne fan club5 votes

I tried to find the game you were talking about in your match history, I didn't find any games with a jinx in them where you were malphite. The most recent malphite game you played had no jinx in it, instead it had a youmus black cleaver vayne who was farmed up with 4 whole items, The quinn had statik shiv and lord dominiks regards. Also you had one full health item, and just a giants belt. That is no where near enough hp for a tank

In the ekko game, the graves had 225 farm, 5 items and lord dominiks regards. Your ekko build only had 2 full tank items and boots. It wasn't very tanky at all. On top of that, the other team had bortk vayne with IE.

HateDaddy4 votes

I honestly don't believe that

Smitty Manjensen4 votes

These threads are hilarious, look at his match history, he fought a Vayne who had Black Cleaver and Youmuus, and a Quinn who had Dominik's, plus he had only Sunfire Cape and a Giant's Belt as health items.

Daddy Ants4 votes

I see as black cleaver Vayne and Lord Dominik's Quinn.

The bullshit levels from the OP are off the charts.

Bladerunner77774 votes

404: PROOF NOT FOUND

chipndip14 votes

This man is bitching about marksmen when the enemy Vayne had a Cleaver and the enemy Quinn had item 3036. They also had a Lux and this dude had a random Sheen in his build out of nowhere.

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2263975153/230990992?tab=stats

So much blind upvoting and shit talking. Gameplay and Bronze really is awful.

A little Peepo3 votes

I agree that playing ADC (well bot lane in general) is very stressful for BOT LANE (not just ADC) since its always a clown fiesta down there with mid laners and top laners taking TP every game.

BUT yeah ADC has always been the babied role of Riot and whenever something is bullying ADCs then it must get nerfed to make them feel more at home (assassins nerfed, thornmail nerfed, supports nerfed, tanks nerfed) A lot of ADC mains just complain way too much when they are clearly and HAVE always been strong and a must in every team comp, hell even before tanks had died and people just went bruisers instead of real tanks, supports started going mid lane, mages started going support, supports started going top, overall in general every class died at some point in the game but ADC has remained relevant all the time, that has not changed.

Tobias Brackner2 votes

git gud

Embertine2 votes

This isn't Dark Souls. This is League of Legends. There is no "git gud" there is only salt and misery, and try harder.

Tobias Brackner1 votes

I can't tell, are you saying that people shouldn't have to git gud?

Also do you honestly believe that git gud exists only within Dark Souls?

Embertine2 votes

I'm saying that getting good is not the soul value of being good. You must also learn from the salt and misery and try harder before you become skilled. It all leads up to getting good. However most people believe they are inherently good from the start and thus choose to blame everything and everyone else besides them, for why they are not going up in ranked.

And no I do not believe git gud exists only in Dark Souls. It's existed since the very dawning of video games! Back when pong was first invented on black and white televisions!

Tobias Brackner2 votes

So, yeah. People gotta git gud

Embertine2 votes

But git gud before you git gud.

SwordOfWar2 votes

That's why you need a mix of armor and a huge health pool. Like 5000 or more if you can manage. Because resistances fall off if you don't have enough hp to make the armor do something.

Also, did they have infernal drakes, baron, or the elder drake buff?

Velgam2 votes

Malphite main here, had 481 armour, 3.3k hp, lost all of it to tristana and graves graves in 2.3 seconds.

Dealth3 votes

i dont believe you "malphite main" smh

BlueBilberry2 votes

Although I've been surprised at how quickly my tanky Taric has been shot down in a couple of recent games, I was skeptical about the original poster's comments. So, I decided to take him seriously. So, I ran the math to see how long a defence optimized malphite would last (i.e., next to nothing for damage and just a meat shield) against a semi-optimized Jinx (i.e., just a bit more offence than defence).

Here's Malph's gear (about 14400 cs): item 3083 item 3143 item 3026 item 3065 item 3111 item 3222 Runes: marks Hybrid pen; seals health; glyphs cd; quints armor The Stats: 5481 hp; life recovery 1800; 17.42s healing time

Here's Jinx's gear (about 19650cs): item 3087 item 3139 item 3508 item 3072 item 3046 item 3031 Runes: marks AD; seals armor; glyphs MR; quints attack speed The DPS Stats: Rocket DPS: 2868; all-out minigun: 7126; all-out rocket: 5045

Using just the minigun, it's pretty clear that poor Malphite could in theory be blown away in under 1 second. (Substitute your choice of boots and we are still looking at under 1.25 seconds.) Now, I am not a fan of tanks but, regardless of whether Jinx is a hypercarry or not, I think it is pretty clear that tanks need to be seriously looked at by the devs. Either that, or we should all give up defensive gear.

(Please feel free to double-check this - I might have made a mistake.)

Rintam1 votes

I checked his match history, here was his build: item 3075 item 3068 item 3047 item 3001 item 1011 item 3057 That is a total of +180 armor. However, the strangest thing is that there is no Jinx on the enemy team. The only Malachite game he's played in a month contains a Lux, Blitzcrank, Rek'sai Quinn and Vayne. He did mention a Lux, and a Quinn, so I assume this is the game, but there is no Jinx. A Vayne is designed to shred tanks. Not so strange if he died to her, especially if she has a Black Cleaver, and the Quinn has Lord Dominiks. A bit of a stretch by the original poster.

BlueBilberry2 votes

{quoted}

I checked his match history, here was his build: item 3075 item 3068 item 3047 item 3001 item 1011 item 3057 That is a total of +180 armor. However, the strangest thing is that there is no Jinx on the enemy team. The only Malachite game he's played in a month contains a Lux, Blitzcrank, Rek'sai Quinn and Vayne. He did mention a Lux, and a Quinn, so I assume this is the game, but there is no Jinx. A Vayne is designed to shred tanks. Not so strange if he died to her, especially if she has a Black Cleaver, and the Quinn has Lord Dominiks. A bit of a stretch by the original poster.

Although it is hard to understand the original poster's comments, I think he was expressing a general frustration with playing Malphite against so many champs that can just burn through whatever armour / resistance his tank has. And it is a valid point. A properly equipped tank should be able to last for more than 1 second against any of the dps types. Heck, any defensive champion in the game currently is basically either cannon fodder or sashimi against most of the damage champions regardless of whether they are a healer/shield support or a tank.

Power Cosmic2 votes

There is too much damage coming from too many places. But I do not think they should buff or nerf tanks directly. Instead, safe ranged spells (Sivir Q, Brand W, etc) and ults should all get nerfed late game scaling. Big damage late should come from autos and riskier spells imo

ghood4life2 votes

I play Crit MasterYi often and he can kill Malphite Rammus Taric just as quick as adcs. It's really unfun when I'm playing a full-tank and can get bursted down. I guess DrMundo is the only tank left.

C9 Scott Free 2 votes

Vayne built black cleaver. You didnt have 360 armor

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