Pointing out that blind is still uselesss agasint 99% of champions.

Gubaguy··1 votes·935 views

So i already made a psot about how blind is pretty much the most useless mechanic in the entire game, save for teemo's W passive... i mean srsly, take damage and you get slowwed automatically? the fuck si that? so, ive decided to compile a list of ways that all champions in the game comepltely ignore blinds.

Aatrox his knock up, and his slows are both aoe and can be used to ignore blinds for the duration, and prevent you ceom attacking while hes blinded, as well any on hit effects wills till proc so his healing will still work even when blinded and hes not hitting you. Ahri Doesnt auto for anything other then csing. Akali Very rarely autos, can just hide until its duration ends in her smokescreen, wills till proc on hit effects. Alistar is a tank, blinds do nothing to him Amumu again, a tank, with AOE abilities, blinds do nothing. Anivia Mage champ, almsot never has to auto, and on hit effects will still proc. Annie Mage champ, doesnt even need to auto to CS, still procs on hits. Ashe ADC, a champ that a blind SHOULD work against, but can just use her volley or arrows, ult to ignore it, will still negate her regular autos, but not on hit effects. Azir He himself doesnt auto, and his sand soldiers cant be blidned, rending blinds 100% useless on him, as well still rpocs on hit effects. Bard On hit effects still still apply, making blinds only half useful in negating the damage, but not the effects of the damage such as the slows. Blitzcrank Same as bard, on hits all still aplly so you still get grabebd and knocked up, jsut take slightly less damage. Brand Mage champ, almsot never autos. Braum Tanky champ, only autos to apply his passive, which applies regardless of blind. Caitlyn Can easily kite for 2 seconds of blind by using her poke, traps, and net rendering it useless. Cassiopeia doesnt auto, ever, if you have to auto you are playign her wrong. Chogath Negate his physical damage, but not his spikes damage, which is half of his overall auto damage, meaning its only half effective, even so, its cho, hes a tank and doesnt care. Corki An adc who very rarely autos, instead uses all abilities to kill, making blind worthless. Darius Can stop his autos, but in his current state hes can jsut Q and E and then the blind has worn off and you are in melee range again. also wont stop his W or its on hits, including the bleed. Diana Will stop her autos, but not her passive despite being auto based. DrMundo Mundo doesnt require autos, however this will stop his. too bad he doesnt need them. Draven Stops his normal autos, but not his axes, they still do damage. Ekko Will stop normal autos, but not his E, which applies his dash, passive, and on hit effects. Elise can stop her autos, but not her spiderlings and she doesnt need autos anyways. Evelynn Doesnt use autos Ezreal Very rarely uses autos, doesnt sotp his on hit effects either. Fiddlesticks Mage, doesnt use autos Fiora Doesnt prevent her from procing weak spots, and doesnt stop hydra AOE damage, despite being an auto based ability. Fizz doesnt stop his on hit effects, and can avoid them with his troll pole anyways. Galio never autos, ever Gangplank oranges. even without them his on hits still apply. Garen spin to win, and doesnt stop his Q anyways. Gnar can in fact sotp his passive W, however it will only piss him off and he can use Q and E to proc his passive anways Gragas Can use abilities to ignore the blinds duration Graves Can dash out of your range and then turn adn kill you the second it wears off, also has his own, more effective blind that makes it hard to see. Hecarim Doesnt stop any of his auto modifier abilities, and he can jsut ram you into a wall and kill you without autos Heimerdinger He never directly autos you and his turrets are not effected. Irelia CAN stop her autos, but she will simply take the hit, stun you, and kill you the second it wears off, and can use her Q, E, and R, as well as her botrk all while blinded ANWYASY. Janna Never autos JarvanIV Cant stop his passive, cant stop hydra if he has it, and most J4's will be smart enough to combo you while blinded negating it anyways. Jax can in fact stop his autos, too bad he can just dodge your attacks while blinded anyways. Jayce Can easily kill you with abilities, knock you away, poke you down, all while blinded. Jinx Stops her form damaging her primary target, but with rockets theres still splash damage to everything. Kalista Can stop her for hitting you, but not from filling you with spears and killing you with her rend, and can kite you for days whiel blidned anyways. Karma doesnt auto Karthus Doesnt auto Kassadin DOESNT AUTO Katarina DOESNT FUCKING AUTO Kayle DOE- Oh she autos, but despite "missing" she still has splash damage and still procs on hits, inlcuding her passive. Kennen autos, but doesnt have to, in fact he only really autos for CS or early game, never autos late game. Khazix Dosnest require autos to kill you, has many abilities that can kill you whiel blinded. Kindred not released yet, however we can assume her abilities despite being auto based, will ignore the blind anways she wolf cant be blinded and her attacks hit 3 at a time KogMaw Can stop his autos, but not any of his abilities Leblanc Never autos LeeSin Can stop his autos, but he very rarly uses autos outside of farming and can EASILY kill you without them Leona Doesnt stop her on hit Q, which is the only relevent thing she can do with an auto Lissandra Doesnt auto Lucian can stop his autos, but nothign else, unsure if it stops his passive autos. Lulu Stops HEr autos, but not her pixie friends. Lux Only ever autos after hitting you with an ability, at which point it wills till proc her passive, which is most of her auto damage. Malphite Doesnt stop his splash damage Malzahar Dosnest stop his little voidling buddies. Maokai Stops his autos, but hes a tank so what does it matter? MasterYi Can in fact sotp his autos, but he can Q and hit you anyways and the blind will be gone upon landing. MissFortune Can stop her autos, but not her targeted shots Mordekaiser Can stop his autos, but thats the elast of your worried Morgana Doesnt auto, can also spellshield herself or anyone else to prevent blinds anyways. Nami Stops her autos, but not her auto modifiers. Nasus Stops his autos, and his Q, however since he can only use his Q once per blind duration ANYWAYS its a gamle as to whether ot not is was worth it. also wont stop on hit effects such as iceborn gauntlet. Nautilus Still not stop his passive, or his W damage. Nidalee stops her autos, but nothing else, she will still cougar jump you whiel blinded and get a kill Nocturne Stops his autos, but not his passive, and can spellshield it off anyways. Nunu Doesnt need to auto outside of farming. Olaf doesnt sotp his on hit eeffects, can ult out of it, doesnt require basic autos to kill you Orianna only needs to auto for CS Pantheon Doesnt prevent his on hit stun, never been killed by a pantheon auto either. Poppy Doesnt prevent her Q, can stun you for the duration anyways. Quinn Has a blind! Can still proc her passive, and EASILY escape with her E. Rammus never needs to auto you, in fact he wants you to auto him. ok? ok. RekSai Doesnt prevent her Q damage ebcuase its aoe. Renekton Doesnt prevent anything, at all. Rengar Can very easily kill you while blinded, doesnt require use of autos. However it can slow him down early to mid game. Riven Cant prevent her from shitting on you becuase of her animation cancelling bullshit, even when blinded she will hit you and can stun/shield it anyways. Rumble Can avoid you and shield you while blinded, and wont even try to auto you until hes overheated anwyays. Ryze Doesnt auto you Sejuani the only auto that matters is the first one, and even then she can hit you before you hti her. Shaco can Q, or R to outlast the blind, also doesnt need to auto to kill you. Shen doesnt need to auto you, likely wants you to blind him so you arnnt using it on anyone else. Shyvana doesnt need to auto you, however it will stop her autos. Singed I dont think ive ever seen a singed auto attack anything EVER in the history of EVER. howeve rit will stop his autos, as little as that does. Sion his insane stack of abilities all dont care about blinds, and if he has hydra then his normal autos dont care either. Sivir spellshield Skarner I dont know anything abotu skarner, hwoever i know skarners build hydras, and hydras ignore blinds. Sona can in fact stop her autos... assumign she didnt auto you before you blinded, and she doesnt have sheen. Soraka can stop her autos, what little use that is. Swain never autos, ever. Syndra never autos, ever. Talon can in fact sotp his autos, however he is ability based so thats worthelss Taric tank, doesnt care if hes blinded. Teemo has a blind! Proabbly the only champion in game whose on hit effect is NEGATED by a blind! but also has most of his damage in his Q, and generaly doesnt fight 1v1 and isntead sets shrooms aroudn the map and lures you in. Thresh can in fact sotp his E damage. However other on hits still apply. Tristana stops her autos damage, but NOt her stacking damage from her explosives despite being auto based. Trundle can stop his autos! but not his bite, or his ult. or on hits. Tryndamere can stop his autos! but not any of his on hits, and can use his spin, or heal to ignore it anyways. TwistedFate can stop his autos, but not his on hit effects, also only autos for on hits anyways. Twitch can stop his autos, but NOT his ult autos splash. Udyr can stop his autos, but not the on hits his autos all have. Urgot NEVER autos, if you auto you did somethign wrong. Varus only autos when you are low enough to die to them, can poke you down for days whiel blidned. Vayne can stoip her autos, but NOT modified autos from tumble, can still proc silver bolts off tumble as well. Veigar Never autos, can one shot one of the 2 champs who have blinds. Velkoz Never autos Vi stops her autos, but not her passive. Viktor never autos. Vladimir never autos Volibear can stop his normal autos, nothign else. Warwick does, NOTHING, only stops his normal autos, not his ult autos or anything else. MonkeyKing can stop his normal autos, nothing else. Xerath only autos for free mana XinZhao Can in fact stop his autos, but NOT the passive healing from them. Yasuo Can stop his autos, but not nay of his auto modifiers or auto based abilities. Yorick He willalmost never auto you directly, if hes close enough to you have buigger problems to worry about. Zac Never needs to auto you. Zed can stop his autos, but nothing else. Ziggs doesnt auto Zilean doesnt auto... Zyra dosut auto... doesnt sotp her plants...

and here are items that require autos that also ignore blinds! item 3074 item 3748 item 3087 item 3742 item 3077 item 3085

im sure i could sit here and test every single item agasint every single blind in every single combination... but im not going to.

the fact is that blind does NOTHING. the ebst way tot fix this is to have blinds reduce vision based ont he level of the ability, make it so they cant use TARGETED abilities, and make all auto modifiers and on hit effects miss compeltely, no splash damage or aoe BS.

and let the hate begin to flow!

19 Comments

Environmentalist2 votes

I'm not even going to go through every champ and every reason you have, but I'll make some generalizations.

Any ranged support champ a lot of the time build item 3303 first item. Blind them while they auto you and they don't trigger the stacks, and you save yourself from 60 ish damage. (60 damage could be life saving if you're running away with ignite on you).

Mid - late game 1v1 ADC vs. ADC. The winner is determined usually by who can burst the other down the fastest, and second by who can hang on longer with lifesteal. Blind one of them and they lose, no argument. This is why Quinn is op in my opinion. If you know the enemy adc is alone, bird form, E > Q them, one or two AA's then R back to Quinn and they're gone before Vayne can pop R > Q.

Teemo vs. anyone top. No matter what champ you are, you will use auto attacks to add a little bit of damage to the enemy. Here is a small list of champs that wouldn't enjoy Teemo's blind. Darius Tryndamere Garen Aatrox JarvanIV Fiora etc etc etc.

You can argue that during the blind you can just use your abilities, but a lot of champs go ham with their abilities then rely on basic attacks when they're waiting for cooldowns or what not. For example, Aatrox: If he's going to 1v1 Teemo, he's gonna jump on him, slow him, and start autoing. By the time Teemo rests safely back on the ground, Aatrox has already burned all of his abilities. Teemo then blinds him and goes nuts, rending Aatrox useless for a short period of time.

Blinds are HUGE fight changers, and if you're able to use them accordingly they can determine the victor of a fight.

Also, Ziggs doesn't auto? What about the passive every 3rd auto or whatever it is that deals huge bonus magic damage. What if he's blinded during that?

Every champ in league relies on their autos in some way, even if it isn't blatantly obvious.

Gubaguy1 votes

actually, blinds dont stop autos that have already had their animation started, so trying to stop a frost queens proc DOESNT work. and i stated how and why all those champs you listed dont really care abotu blinds, such as fiora still procing weak stops, emanign if you blind her when she goes in (assumuign she misses her parry) she will STILL do a ton of damage, and heal off the blind you jsut hit her with.

and im assumign in every situation that the players are smart, there therefor NOT goign to burn everything to engage on you, and will wait until youve tried to engage on them. even then its a crap shoot as to whether or not you win because of the cooldowns and damage outputs of some champs.

EDIT: AND with some of the newer items in game, blinds are even LESS effective, i blinded a skarner AFTER he had burned everything, including his ult while he was super low, like 15% hp, but he still kileld me by procing his titanic hydra becuase the blind doesnt stop THAT damage, despite being auto based.

Environmentalist1 votes

Not everybody sends out a blind mid animation of a basic attack. I can see arguing with you won't get anywhere, but I can guarantee you're wrong (reference all the downvotes you have already).

If a blind stops even one basic attack, it served a purpose, preventing damage and having that much more health while fighting. Good day.

Gubaguy1 votes

ok, then heres a situation for you: playing quinn, i see vayne tumble and hit a minion, so i ult and rush at her, i use my E, and she autos, BEFORE the auto hits me i Q, blinding her, but its too late, animation has begun and now im hit. I ignore it because shes blind, she cant hit me, but then she knocks me abck and stuns me, not im stunned and have 2 stacks on me. her tumble comes off CD and she tumbles to the side procing the third hit and i get chunked, the blind wears off and we are even in HP, my E comes off CD and i go in again, we go at each other and we are close, i hit R, but before i can swap back and kill her with my volley of arrows she kills me. i look at her HP and see my ult would have kileld her with its damage, and see that if she hadnt hit me with that first bolt while blinded i would have kileld her easily.

so what damage was prevented there? i blidned, got hucnked down while she was blinded becuase of her tumble proc, and there was nothign else i coudl do.

Environmentalist1 votes

Easy answer. Don't position yourself in a manner to get stunned. Vayne is super easy to play against as Quinn.

Just because YOU don't know how to use blinds to your advantage does not mean they're useless.

Gubaguy1 votes

the only upside to vayne vs quinn is having a good support early to help get you soem kills, if you leave laning phase with 1-2 kills over vayne then it doesnt matetr if she cheats the blind, she dies to your ult every time.

Maximum Morde2 votes

The moves blind is attached to do pretty good damages tho.

Cardboard Pleb1 votes

Teemo used Blinding Dart on Lee Sin! .... .... It's not very effective...

Eedat1 votes

I couldn't make it past "Blind isn't effective vs Aatrox"

hahahahahaha

2/10 troll post for making me respond

Gubaguy1 votes

well then let me point it out here for you, he can knock you up, use his ult, or his AOE slow all whiel blinded, his on hit heals still proc while blidned, so even if hes not killing you he can sustain long enough to make it to the end of the blind THEN kill you.

Eedat1 votes

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Valor Bot1 votes

{quoted}Quinn Has a blind! Can still proc her passive, and EASILY escape with her E.

If memory serves me right, I've never been able to proc my passive against a Teemo while blinded.

Gubaguy1 votes

if you start the animation before being blidned it will proc. but quinns passive is buggy as fuck, ive missed the passive weven when NOT blinded jsut ebcuase the mark wasnt 100% loaded onto the target before i auto'd them.

Watch91 votes

You spent quite a bit of time making a troll post. And FYI, Warwicks ult will completely miss. Just bothered me reading that information.

Gubaguy1 votes

ive died to a blinded WW ult before, could be the same situation as "if the auto animation has already begun it cant be blinded" situation with all ADC's

Watch91 votes

Go on the League Wikia and tell me I'm wrong. Warwicks ult misses if hes blinded during the duration of the ult.

EDIT: Infinite Duress is a targeted channeled blink ability. None of Infinite Duress's strikes can critically strike. All the strikes can be Counter Striked Infinite Duress's strikes will miss when Warwick is blinded.

El Condor Pasa1 votes

Not quite sure anymore but if it still works like Fiora's old ult, Warwick needs to be blinded before he ults for it to miss.

Ralanr1 votes

Just don't let Pantheon auto you at low health. It's pretty much an instant kill.

Mecha MaIphite1 votes

The fact that you think AD casters like Renekton or Talon never need to auto is more than enough to dismiss your argument.

And you also think blinds are useless against AA based adcs, I just don't know what to say.

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