Riot since I know there will be Irelia QQ that is going to be coming in 6.11

Irelia Bot··6 votes·572 views

Don't wait 3 months before doing a within reason nerf like reverting the Q changes in 6.7 that are likely no longer needed to improve performance with the changes to Trinity and Wit's end finally happening.

That buff arguably did not even need to happen in the first place but I will admit the mana cost reduction was nice.

Yes I am requesting that she be nerfed for 6.12 within reason to contend with a likely "pick or ban" state she will likely face in a few weeks.

Yes I am saying don't do what you are doing with Zed where he is not nerfed and is now at some crazy 80%+ ban rate on most servers.

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WoonStruck1 votes

Imma be mad if she becomes pick or ban.

Irelia Bot2 votes

She likely will be which is not what I want.

TyroneWatermelon1 votes

You misspelled cancer

Irelia Bot2 votes

You are probably thinking about Aatrox who... I get it he is a failed Irelia knock off but cancer?

LadyRenly1 votes

i still think she will be overrated

Irelia Bot2 votes

How so?

LadyRenly1 votes

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How so?

don't get me wrong, I like Irelia, I think she is good even right now. I know for a fact the tri force changes are a buff to her so she will only get better, but I just don't see her being the next tank ekko/korean lucian.

LankPants1 votes

I think she'll be slightly too strong this patch, she's not going to be Zed/Ekko levels of ban or lose, but she'll be a touch too strong. All Riot will probably need to do is nerf her Q back down to what it was and she'll be fine.

Lord Desert1 votes

Dude im sr but those "changes" are not as heavy as you think, ill explain: the +25% As is rughly +0.2 As on irelia. This means you get more attacks in a certain timeframe, which need to be atleast 4-5 sec, where you do 1 AA more dmg. But you lose the potential of early(lucky) spikes and the potential lategame spikes(reliable crits with e.g. PD). Lets compare: if you get lucky the old T3f does more dmg, the new t3f does the same dmg after 5 sec, or the old t3f is flat out weaker if you dont get lucky. Its like: lucky? old better! not lucky? new better! I still considere this a small buff to t3f as irelia main, but i had countless times where the crit safed my ass. But it will be a little weak late game where the juciy crit just finished the enemy adc. I dont think she will be anywhere near as op as Zed,(max a little buff), who gets a "nerf"! little bit less dmg to his 1 shurrican poke(rank5), but already buffs at 2, and insane dmg with 3. so i consider this a BUFF FOR SKILLED ZEDS!!!!!! and not a nerf!!! i think his banrate should be even higher now xDDD if your intressed ill show you the math xD

Irelia Bot1 votes

Still will likely get a 2 to 3% buff in win rate and a 10 to 15% in play rate.

Yes I did the math and it is a slight nerf in theoretical damage when only having Trinity but if you add in Wit's end it becomes a lot more.

If you add in the 10% more CDR and slightly lower cost then it becomes a clear buff all around to Trinity for Irelia and Jax.

Lord Desert2 votes

yeah her playrate will skyrocket for sure! But to be honest i never understood why wits end is a item for irelia! I know its alot of As+Mr and NICE onhit dmg but the MAIN gold effizenzy stats(~1000g worth), the mrshred/pen does not benefit irelia whatsoever!! xDDD she uses her stun as an engage in 80%.... the cdr is nice but i dont think her winrate will go up, it might be even dropping because irelia is a champ which sucks hard before lev 4-5, she not that difficult but she gets dominatet hard early :/ For jax this is 100% buff because of his passiv

Irelia Bot1 votes

You would have to go back to season 2 to understand the love of Wit's End some Irelia players still have. It was however so good that it was arguably the only ever other core damage item on Irelia. Build it to contend with a Vlad or teemo or to make the enemy unable to reduce most of your damage buy rushing a armor item.

Then in preseason 3 Riot removed an Item called malady and gave the MR shred passive to wit's end while increasing the cost and the AP ratio on auto attacks to Nashor's tooth.

In season 2 Wit's end had a cost of 2000 to 2200 40% attack speed 30 MR 42 on hit magic damage Auto attacks increased your MR by 5 for 5 seconds stacking up to 4 times.

It now has 10 more MR and one more stack. It is not as good as season 2 but it is good enough to consider agaisnt hte likes of Teemo Vlad or even Sunfire Renekton.

It was cheap in season 2 but really strong for the price. You bought it for early to mid game power and lane dominance. It would fall off as the game went on since it was not the best buy for the item slot but it had reaso nto be bought.

Wit's end basically died for all but WW and a couple others when Malady was removed and the MR increase became MR stealing for too high of a price tag.

But we long time IRelia and Jax players are really excited at the prospect of it being a item to consider getting again.

And yes mixed damage is a big part of the reason why we wanted it back. while it is lacking the Universal answer of 42 it should be good enough to justify getting in some games now.

Lord Desert1 votes

ohyeah the 42 xDD why did they removed that? xD I still prefer it vs vlad, tahm, teemo, maokai and naut over t3f. Hmm couldnt we change wits to have Mr and Ar shred? (steal would be too op) or give it onhit scaling with ad or as? and make it a hybrid item! We dont have something like that. Right now it lacks identity, there are way to many items that do a better job in a specify way then wits :( like nashor, abyssel, botrk etc. i think i even have a hole list somewhere, i did some reseach what are wits rivals.

Irelia Bot1 votes

actually I would most prefer it to cost 2442

42% attack speed 42MR Unique passive: 42 on hit magic damage Unique Passive: auto attacks provide you 2% magic damage reduction stacking up to 5 times lasting for 5 seconds.

Or something like this.

Lord Desert1 votes

Those changes would be pretty nice!

Akali is SO HOT1 votes

I don't want the Q ratio buff reverted. That little extra damage that you now get with Q has made it so much easier to cs under turret and to get the reset on minions to catch people out. I've noticed a huge difference in that. As long as they don't nerf her stun duration I'm happy tbh.

Irelia Bot1 votes

It would be weird for a little while but I would get use to how it was.

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