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You know, Ranged top laners made me quit top lane Mordekaiser

Malicious Metal··114 votes·6,177 views

Why would I be bothered getting AA'd, getting camped due to having a longer lane, struggling to just maintain CS'ing and generally being bullied by the likes of Jayce Kennen and Gnar when I could just roll mid?

I got Mages that can't burst me, rely on a actually hitting SKILLSHOTS, actually use resources and lack BS escapes. The lane's also shorter and I get to steal the enemy's farm, as well as being way closer to Dragon and get this... Have actual impact on the map and NOT rely on teleport to feel useful.

Seriously, at least Mordekaiser can go Mid, other melee tops are somewhat screwed over up there because they're just getting the short end of the stick.

Not to mention the total lack of nerfs to these bullies in the pre season.

So yeah, I'm outta there, peace out. Gotta bother the enemy Mid and make them pull their hair out over not being able to burst me while getting run down by a 500 MS Mordekaiser.

And you know who they can blame for that? Their allied Jayce top.

124 Comments

A Superb Villain59 votes

Mordekaiser? In my lane?!

http://s.quickmeme.com/img/d3/d3a043aec4202586721fe88b7c32d8042440f571f11a16f8dde34878ce475c83.jpg

Malicious Metal54 votes

http://orig11.deviantart.net/2b7f/f/2015/297/0/2/who_s_the_true_master_of_evil__by_nimrohd-d9e6u1v.jpg

What kind of minion is this?

A Superb Villain42 votes

http://file.thisisgame.com/upload/tboard/user/2012/07/15/20120715100135_6735.jpg

One that wasn't forced out of their native lane!

Stars Shaper25 votes

https://65.media.tumblr.com/4423a898859195b2134914340dc74f96/tumblr_o4oahqu5nQ1sk67t1o1_500.png

You guys stepped in the wrong lane.

TheIronRevenant3 votes

CHAMPION FIGHT!

A Superb Villain23 votes

http://i.imgur.com/YGaiV7H.png?noredirect

Infinite scaling says otherwise.

Stars Shaper9 votes

http://pre10.deviantart.net/1dab/th/pre/f/2016/206/b/b/aurelion_sol___galactic_star_dragon__by_3ejp-dabaahc.jpg That's if I let you farm.

(Ok this is starting to get out of hand xD)

A Superb Villain8 votes

http://pa1.narvii.com/6024/ede3bf1c85b52d2edf8650dd74d8288e8e67afeb_hq.gif

So you want to throw around galaxies?

( Yes, it is. )

Ackelope4 votes

You could say his galaxies won't be able to escape the pull of your event horizon... black holes > stars

Stars Shaper12 votes

http://st.elohell.net/public/chill/152985cf24af1ec4cb4f1aa24478797e.gif That's how I roll

Rude Name3 votes

Can I just quickly step in here to say thank you? It's good to see a (professional) Aurelion Sol player on these boards.

The 2nd Horseman6 votes

https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-20-2014/5F1hfV.gif This is turning into an episode of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure

Vei3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Malicious Metal,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=e6f5R4PR,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2016-11-14T17:41:59.226+0000)

http://orig11.deviantart.net/2b7f/f/2015/297/0/2/who_s_the_true_master_of_evil__by_nimrohd-d9e6u1v.jpg

What kind of minion is this?

hey stahp that

SlntReaper5 votes

Yes there is. You're pretty smol

A Superb Villain35 votes

https://cdn.meme.am/instances/400x/61537827.jpg

SpecterVonBaren11 votes

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/disney/images/3/35/Mr_Big_Shrew_Mafia_Boss.png/revision/latest?cb=20151231163109

More appropriate for your height disadvantage.

(Please forgive me senpai, I had to do it for the memes!)

A Superb Villain8 votes

http://i.imgur.com/SnIwFtR.gif?noredirect

Sahn Uzal34 votes

So I'll blame the enemy Jayce when my Entire Wolf and Chicken camps are gone? :^)

Malicious Metal47 votes

Yes.

It's all the enemy Jayce's fault.

Ultimate Deadpoo7 votes

[{quoted}](name=Malicious Metal,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=e6f5R4PR,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-11-14T17:06:56.164+0000)

Yes.

It's all the enemy Jayce's fault.

Try Morde jungle. Inori did it in the LCS and it worked.

Also, where is our Mordekaiser on the roleplaying boards. Shadow Isles are gonna lose the Harrowing if you don't show up soon, and also check your ask morde thread.

Sahn Uzal8 votes

He has played it quite often. He ganks Top almost as often as Tides of Blood :^)

Blkninjar8713 votes

Ranged Champions as a whole irk me, the thing that bothers me is all 3 of those ranged champs have some type of retarded ass move speed boost.

Look at TwistedFate ... he ranged, has no move speed.. you get close to him u smack him twice and hes either gonna stun u and leave or slow u down.

Now look at the other 3. you mentioned. All 3 ranged, All three have some sort of slow/build it (Kennen item 3116 + R yay!)

These 3 champs were designed to be able to smoosh not only modekaiser but literally ALL melee tops... (You forgot Teemo )

For some weird reason it's okay to not give melee move speed (Cause items.?) Darius Mordekaiser Illaoi Aatrox But it's okay to give these ranged champs with hard cc movespeed, free armor/hp, and for some weird reason extra move speed and slow on every single item they will build. item 3285 item 3022 item 3071 item 3152 item 3142 item 3116

This is what people mean when they mention mobility creep

ChaosThief11 votes

I think this general idea is what made Yasuo ,Ekko and the likes appear. They're melee, but they can deal with ranged champions fairly well, and as a result are hated by everyone.

It's like fighting fire with fire, nobody wins.

Supreme Senpai696 votes

It's like how drivers hate pedestrians and pedestrians hate drivers

But everyone hates bicyclists.

KnightOfEloHell10 votes

This is the reason I made a thread for a Mord buff. Unfortunately, I just got downvotes and noone with any good ideas to post.

I'm getting kited like nothing even when I have Stormraiders, ghost, AND flash.

It's BS to have Boots of Swiftness and be outran because the enemy has basic boots and a kit full of cc

decides ro build resistances to wade thru cc still melted when cc'd once because Mord has such low base hp

I love Mord but come on, OLAF is in a better spot, and he was Olaf'd!!

Tychusfindlay9193 votes

[{quoted}](name=Morde Unlimited,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=e6f5R4PR,comment-id=0017,timestamp=2016-11-14T21:38:47.072+0000)

This is the reason I made a thread for a Mord buff. Unfortunately, I just got downvotes and noone with any good ideas to post.

I'm getting kited like nothing even when I have Stormraiders, ghost, AND flash.

It's BS to have Boots of Swiftness and be outran because the enemy has basic boots and a kit full of cc

decides ro build resistances to wade thru cc still melted when cc'd once because Mord has such low base hp

I love Mord but come on, OLAF is in a better spot, and he was Olaf'd!!

In regards to the spirit of the OP, the right path would be to nerf ranged top laners, not buff mordekaiser. That, or buff general melee defense options (starting items or masteries) against ranged.

Xosra8 votes

Yeah after playing a game of Morde mid and smashing them I have to agree it was way easier to go mid. Karma was so squishy itw as easier to burst her compared to a tank. Also i did not feel bad for going full ap mid.

WiegrafOfValor6 votes

The only solution I got for ranged top laners is TahmKench TOP, get W first then E, summoner 6 summoner 12 , QUIN+RED %AS, YELLOW AR, BLUES MR, item 2033 >> item 1054 >> item 1001 >> item 3800 .

FINAL BUILD:

item 3009 or item 3020 BOOTS

item 3800 item 3022 CORE

item 3065 item 3742 DEFENSIVE (ALMOST CORE)

if ahead item 3091 or item 3748

if behind item 3083 item 3143 item 3068 item 3102 item 3026

The only tank I can play TOP right now, so sad right now..

IceKingChernobog2 votes

{quoted}

The only solution I got for ranged top laners is TahmKench TOP, get W first then E, summoner 6 summoner 12 , QUIN+RED %AS, YELLOW AR, BLUES MR, item 2033 >> item 1054 >> item 1001 >> item 3800 .

FINAL BUILD:

item 3009 or item 3020 BOOTS

item 3800 item 3022 CORE

item 3065 item 3742 DEFENSIVE (ALMOST CORE)

if ahead item 3091 or item 3748

if behind item 3083 item 3143 item 3068 item 3102 item 3026

The only tank I can play TOP right now, so sad right now..

New yorick also works out quite well.

Jet Sett5 votes

Jayce Jhin Kennen "Time to go mid lane now"

At least you can get to turret faster.

Shadow Hazard4 votes

item 2051 This is what riot should get for inspiration, this reduces the damage of ability poke also. and should range still be an issue add in a +10% increased effectiveness against ranged damage.

Perfect stats could be

+80 health +6 health per 5 seconds block 8 damage from attacks and spells from champions (25% effectiveness vs. damage over time abilities)(110% effectiveness vs ranged attacks and spells)

range still will keep their inherent advantage of being range and being able to poke with auto's and abilities, melee wont be automatically bent over (hopefully) and everyone else can choose it as an option against an unfavorable match up.

GULAG 4 U4 votes

At least in my elo, people don't know how to play ranged tops : ^)

resumed4 votes

actually use resources

Mordekaiser https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYBiH1qUAAESUKJ.jpg

redniwediS3 votes

Honestly all top laners who are in a similar situation to Morde can roll mid. My personal favorite is mid Garen, particularly with all these assassins running about.

DeathBurst3 votes

I main Garen and I play Morde mid a decent amount. I'm skeptical. Garen's sustain is far inferior to Morde's, and only triggers out-of-combat, I can't see how you're supposed to handle all the poke that the typical ranged mid-laner will send your way. Plus, your wave-clear is totally melee, while Morde can use E from 500 range and W on a front-line minion while staying behind, so he can farm more safely. Morde can also put W on a ganking jungler, and usually go for Gunblade and/or Rylai, so he at least has slows. Garen has pretty much nothing except damage to provide for a gank, and since you'll play passively (because what else could you do?), any hint of aggression will warn the enemy that a gank is incoming.

So, what am I missing that makes Garen mid a good idea? As far as I can tell, Illaoi/Darius or even Wu-kong/Xin are far better equipped for Mid-lane.

SociopathFriend2 votes

The situational DR Garen has makes bursting him fairly hard, and a few seconds of non-combat gives him a good bit of health. The main thing is that mid characters will typically be squishy, meaning a FlashQEJUSTICE honestly has a chance of completely killing them if done right, especially if they take damage beforehand.

DeathBurst3 votes

It's hard to maintain out-of-combat when there are so many ranged mid-laners. And his passive is kinda slow early, in lane.

Need Gold 4 Tent5 votes

Heck, I've done Nasus mid and it worked damn well. Stack up on those lifesteal quints, take warlord's and start with mantle. Stay in lane forever (or until OOM, which won't be an issue one you get sheen). Only problem is the mid laner will then win by ganking, something Nasus doesn't really like to do. It won't matter as much though, if you call your mias unless its tf.

Tanks mid are great.

bill841 votes
  1. Yes, people always seem to forget that there is actually a tank who is played largely in the mid lane (Galio )
Need Gold 4 Tent1 votes

Who's that? A new kind of minion?

FluffyMcArfArf3 votes

It took you this long to realize that top lane sucks monkey fuck? Mid and bot have it made. Mid's lane is short and in bot, you have a partner to back you up.

Malicious Metal10 votes

Top lane was great before ranged became so bloody common.

Morde versus Riven/Irelia is a free win

Penns2 votes

Well melee mid laners are just as bad as melee top laners tho, if not even worse lol.

Malicious Metal8 votes

Morde isn't ALL melee though and can deal easily with mages and assassins.

He counters a fair bunch of them mid while most of the current Meta tops counter the Revenant.

legionnaire991 votes

i mean ranged isn't that hard to deal with, annoying, but not that hard (bush op) i do play juggernuts Darius ( my main) Illaoi ( my only other level 7 champion) Skarner (super rarely) i been slowly adding Mordekaiser to that list for a ap champion but i never think of it when i get top lane lol

Tychusfindlay9198 votes

{quoted}

i mean ranged isn't that hard to deal with, annoying, but not that hard (bush op) i do play juggernuts Darius ( my main) Illaoi ( my only other level 7 champion) Skarner (super rarely) i been slowly adding Mordekaiser to that list for a ap champion but i never think of it when i get top lane lol

Darius at least has a pull, that's why he has somewhat of a chance (but not really) against the likes of the bitchass of tomorrow Jayce .

Toa Innodence4 votes

the likes of the bitchass of tomorrow Jayce .

you have made my day, thank you sir or madam!

Tychusfindlay9192 votes

[{quoted}](name=Toa Innodence,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=e6f5R4PR,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2016-11-14T22:05:57.689+0000)

you have made my day, thank you sir or madam!

Aye. You may call me sir, I looked down to confirm just in case ;)

rtbf2256182411 votes

How does a Mordekaiser get 500 ms? That's a little less than Janna's.

Malicious Metal6 votes

It's a bit of an overstatement but I run Ghost, Stomraider's surge and MS Quints. He'll be really hard to peel off because he's so bloody fast.

Couple this with Rylais and your mid laner's pretty much boned.

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