Maybe Azir needs to raise the dead for all ap champs.

Bultz··3 votes·391 views

Since the juggernauts are running loose and the adc's are causing havoc across the rift, maybe our necromancer friend can bring back our old friend deathfires grasp. With the future ap update in works maybe we can get dfg back. I mean giant slayer is basically the same item just without the doom effect, but perhaps it's time?

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Sachabot2 votes

Azir's not a necromancer, though.

Bultz1 votes

It was a joke on his new skin......

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

Riot destroyed him.Because they love sexy champions.(Lux,Ahri,Fiora vs.) So they don't give a buff for Azir.Also Azir and Zed both high skill champions but Zed has 52% win rate Azir has only 44%.

67chrome1 votes

Since the juggernauts are running loose and the adc's are causing havoc across the rift, maybe our necromancer friend can bring back our old friend deathfires grasp.

DFG was honestly pretty bad against tanky DPS.


In practice, all that item ever did was move your 100%->20% QWER burst into a 100%->0% 1QWER burst. The %HP scaling was more analogous to an extra ability that scaled off of levels over actually being good vs. high HP. Doubly so considering high HP targets also have high MR whch really hits %HP magic damage hard. Triply so as the entire reason a tanky champion is good vs. a bursty champion is that there's a massive difference between OHKOing a target in 0.5 seconds over dropping a target from 100% to 50% with your once a minute rotation, and all DFG did was turn that 100% to 50% into a 100% to 40%. Quadruply so as FoN offered some pretty impressive HP/5 that's going to bump that 40% up to 50% by the time your QWE come off CD and you can drop them from 50% to ~15%. Annd you're face is getting smashed in the entire time. If released now, BV and SV both only lack 6 MR from FoN's value and they also provide an impressive boost to HP/5.


DFG mostly just turned everyone who bought it into Leblanc. Useless vs. tanks unless extremely fed, OHKOs squishies with no warning while offering juuuust enough omphf to render mild counter-builds available to supports or squishy carries completely and utterly useless.

It's also worth considering the main way you beat a tanky champion as a bursty one is by whittling them down with poke and chip damage until their current HP is effectively the same as a squsihy champion's you can OHKO. In which case there's always: item 3116 item 3151 that can really add some potency to poke.


Because of how counter-intuative that is for DFG's tooltip and playing against someone with DFG, the item was just a mess all-around and needed to go.

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

Mages Aren't Supposed To kill Tanks

Leave that to the ADCs

Bultz1 votes

Tanks arnt suppose to juggernaut and hit harder then adc, but guess what.

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

Huh?

chezwickcheese1 votes

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Tanks arnt suppose to juggernaut and hit harder then adc, but guess what.

Haha exactly!

Cruk1 votes

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Tanks arnt suppose to juggernaut and hit harder then adc, but guess what.

They dont though

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