This section of boards is so hell bent on using winrates for their arguments right.

So why the hell do people think lee sin is such a good character? he doesn't touch a 50% winrate in any elo.

"BUT THE PROS ASININE" None of us are pros, toss that shit out the window.

You want a champion with a gap closer who can get to targets? Play sejuani, her Q not only hits champions but it knocks them up as well, i know a shit load of you lee sins love taking that Q you landed right under a enemy tower and dying because of it. but if you do it with sejuani you can tank the turret shots and actually walk away alive because you are a tank.

"but I want someone who does damage" Then play fizz jungle, you have a targeted Q W combo that can't miss and a E that makes you invulnerable to turret shots.

"but i want to kick people towards my team" Then pick skarner, he can be built tanky run up and just ult someone then proceed to drag them to your team.

"but i want to damage to the person im kicking into my team" Then pick gragas and go ap, its a ranged aoe knock back that you can just toss under the enemy tower without using a lee sin ward and Q to try and ult someone.

"but my early game" then pick rengar, 5 stacks and you can throw a ranged snare which can be chain cced into a ranged slow.

Pick elise, in spider form she can initiate with E, human form she can cc with her E at close range

Pick nidalee and toss spears to chunk the enemy lane opponent forcing them to back or get killed because you and your laner can attack at any moment

"i dont like those characters i want to pick lee sin because hes cool" O you mean the character whose lore is built around being a complete fuck up like most of his playerbase and fans are?

He destroyed an entire village because he got greedy and the only remaining thing from that village was a kid with his face torn off.

Lee sin is an awful character stop picking him

TL;DR: theres so many better junglers in this game why the hell are you picking lee sin.