the fucking minion block is unbearable
i tried laning against varus and the fucking minions bodied blocked me
his Q destroyed me because minion block and everytime i try to get in range of him BAM MINIONS
holy fuck
KVbqbFsC8e41 votesIf you think its bad now, you should have seen it at the start of the Season.
purplekun1 votes[{quoted}](name=The Big Piece,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9GOJQF8K,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-08-03T02:06:44.366+0000)
If you think its bad now, you should have seen it at the start of the Season.
"dont worry guys we will fix the creep block", and then they made it worse
CerealBoxOfDoom38 votesthey should give the minions football skins
LordFartHammer1 votesyes! and a football type game mode with plays and downs in which the minions are linemen!
leblance would be the coolest reciever of all time
Velgam10 votesgot flayed into 2 minions and got stuck there for 10 seconds till they realized i was stuck so I had to flash...., playing top and went to auto attack a minion, I spun around 8 times trying to get past the caster minions. s6 creep block strongest CC.
Aeszarck9 votesWukong, Maokai, Katarina, Vi, Xin Zhao, Warwick, Pantheon, Jarvan IV, Quinn, Nocturne, Akali, Jax, Talon, Diana, Braum, Jayce, Master Yi, Elise, Alistar, Yasuo, Fizz, Irelia, Ekko, and Poppy are all the champions I found with point and click gap closers.
This is for anybody's use.
EDIT with portraits: 
EDIT2: oh gosh I totally misread the title, thought Asinine said "point and click gap closers", not "poke and gap closers". Now I look stupid.
NineTailedMystic4 votesJ4 shouldn't be on this list considering how jank his ult can be.
Spoofghoul10 votesisn't his ult just another example of minionblock
^^
Vistha Kai5 votesDon't say it, or some wanna-be programmer will storm in, trying to defend having things coded as minions.
blkKalameet2 votesthat's how the made a train in one of the fall out games (3 I think).
stuck a hat on an npc and made it run really fast.
Vistha Kai2 votesOr a car in Skyrim that was basically a reskinned horse.
bgentle2myashe1 votesWhat about 
?
Aeszarck1 votesWhat about
Not really point and click. Those are skillshots where your champion is the projectile.
It Hertz When IP1 votes{quoted} skillshots where your champion is the projectile.
Someone called?
InfinitexMortal7 votesYeah i cant tell you how many times ive been completely walled into a turret by minions. I think this is also why 
is becoming more popular on champs like 
instead of 
General Esdeath 19 votesNo, it's because of the dueling potential due to reduced damage. Trynd can spin through minions and often takes ghost.
Verdade1 votesWhy would i want shitty Shiv lightning when im hyperscaling carry? Shiv's passive adds static (no puns intended) damage, PD gives multiplicative stats
Zedex1 votesShiv crits and when Tryndaqueer or Yasuo reach 100% crit that means the shiv damage will ALWAYS crit, resulting in a large burst as opposed to PD's sustained damage dealing mechanics. The items have different uses, its just PD is too good right now.
Verdade2 votesShiv crits for maximum 240 damage... whats that when compared to 1k AA crits?
TotalJerk1 votesWhen splitpushing you're critting 5 additional minions at the same time.
Wimbledofy1 voteswhich doesn't mean much since you can and should be able to clear the enemies minions fast enough anyways before your minions reach them.
Vellich0r1 votesA lot when you consider his autos still crit for 1k and now have an extra 240 damage added on, meaning the difference between one shorting someone and taking 2 hits to kill them.
Verdade1 votesOR get more AS, ignore unit collision(which is huge) and increase your HP by 12% (its even better than that since it works with lifesteal much better than added hp)
Darkwind2 votesAs Tryn, shiv has the benefit of reducing E cooldown dramatically. If the lightning crits, his E is reduced as if he had crit once for every target hit by the lightning. Often is = instant E refresh.
Verdade3 voteswell, that's cool Edit: according to reddit, it doesn't work. I'd test id but i don't have Trynd. Any confirmation?
ReZisT Lust7 votes whats minion block lol jk
Critmaster Garen6 votesin a recent game my jungler died because i couldnt follow up on a gank, since i was blocked in by minions. they suddenly decided to move and completely surround me. my champion was just jitterring in place for a couple of seconds.
enough is enough. this needs to end.
Dengeden1 votesSo hard to click slightly to the side.
General Esdeath 15 votesWhen they surround you well enough, you can't move at all.
Dengeden3 votesRare and avoidable.
Mecha Incognito16 votesAre you actually defending the pathing/creep block issues in the game?
Do you even play this game?
Dengeden3 votesI'm either with you or against you, hm?
There's obviously little that Riot can do about those issues, and creep block, while insanely punishing sometimes, is something any player can avoid if they look out for it.
a friendly man9 votesI just dont remember being so blocked by minions way back in the day. I agree that if you have bad positioning that its deserved you suffer a death. But in all the years I have played, I feel most recently you can get minion cock blocked even without bad positioning.
Creepy Bubble6 votesAnybody who plays this game more than casually would tell you that creep block has gotten them killed at least 10 times. Riot has patched/removed things for less
Urf Easter-egg that would deal 1 magic damage, poping banshees if ww wearing urfwick skin walked by a single part of the map.
Dengeden1 votesAh yes, because you can fix a specific, easily reproduced bug, they can fix an issue that affects the entire champion roster under multiple circumstances.
blkKalameet2 votesyeah, just remove ally unit collision.
Dengeden1 votesOr you can not because it'd a stupid way to deny CS.
NichtHurz1 votesAs said many times, this would break certain melee champs in lane. You could just walk through your minions, harass the enemy laner and be protected by your own minions since they don't block you. Same for removing any collision, melee champs and even ranged champs would hide between minions and it would become impossible for many skillshots to ever hit you. Playing against Blitzcrank? Np bro, I'll just stand right on my own minions so you'll never ever have a chance to use your Q.
Minion block is needed and important, it just needs a huge overhaul regarding consistency and champions pathing (which is a way bigger problem in my opinion).
General Esdeath 1 votes"There's nothing Riot can do"
As they have an item that fixes the problem. But there's NOTHING WE CAN DO GUYS
Dengeden1 votesThey have an item that REMOVES it. They want creep block in the game, you should have to take your minions into account when pathing.
General Esdeath 1 votesThen clearly it's not a problem, it's poor choice. A problem is a bug.
Dengeden1 votesYes, yes. I know you love your binary 100% reliable, uncounterable strats but riot doesn't. They don't like it when there factors in the game you can simply ignore. Sorry, m8.
General Esdeath 1 votesWho said ignore them? We want to remove this one because it was caused by Riot having a small budget when launching the game. Minions and terrain are coded the same way, hence why Fizz can jump over them and Riven can 3rd Q hop over enemy minions without damaging them. It's been over 10 years, time to change codes.
Dengeden1 votesIt's been 7 years at most but who's counting?
What caused it is irrelevant. Riot has consciously decided that you shouldn't be able to completely ignore minions when commanding your champion. In part because being able to move over them would allow you to deny them. In part because it makes sense to have to take minions into account when pathing.
Sure, the code blew creep block out of proportion but removing it entirely isn't the answer either.
General Esdeath 1 votes7 years since launch* remember there's common coding.
And creep block causes so many problems that it's better to scrap it until Riot can work it out. And denying is already done, especially if you're ranged vs melee.
Dengeden1 votesOnly now it'll be done even more. Melee v Melee can already be insanely binary, let's make it even more lopsided. Zed and Yasuo will have a field day abusing weak laners, taking AAs and sustaining up with Vampirism and others.
Creep block occasionally causes problems, it's not a permanent thing and if we go by LCS, where it's essentially never a problem, it's an avoidable thing.
General Esdeath 1 votesIf Yas/Zed are auto attacking you as a ranged champ early, the problem isn't minions, it's you.
Dengeden1 votesYou misunderstand me, I meant that they'd stand on top of their minions so you couldn't target them (the minions) with your AAs.
