Just wondering... when is Graves weak?

Melledoneus··4 votes·538 views

It seems like he is one of the best duelists at early levels, a shredding machine mid-game, and a bursting monstrosity late game.

People who play Graves and actually understand how he works, when do I shut him down? He never seems to be weak during the game.

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Alaric The Sic2 votes

Much like every other snowball jungler. He thrives on outfarming the enemy jungler and showing up to get early ganks. If he fails the first couple attempts he's pretty done tbh. He has many counters. Just look up any info on him on champion.gg or some other random site like that.

Maximum Morde1 votes

Pink ward him.

Jbels1 votes

He isn't.

Melledoneus1 votes

And this is ok?

Rustling Bush1 votes

well if he relies on his dashes for bonus damage, play a champion with a hard lock down. Irelia springs to mind as being a anti duelist with her stun maxed first.

bad arcade kitty1 votes

a squishy for a jungler/top, can't shoot over minions to be an adc... when he is even good?

Rustling Bush1 votes

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a squishy for a jungler/top, can't shoot over minions to be an adc... when he is even good?

considering the constant nerfs he received last season, i'd say good for a long while.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

dont do extended trades with graves cuz he gets tankier the longer the fight goes... big burst kills him

Melledoneus1 votes

So he can burst people very quickly yet is good in extended trades? Not trying to make him sound OP or anything, but what?

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

yea.. but its not broken burst... the only way you want to have extended trades with him is champs that have massive sustain or do great in extended trades

jax is one of those...

i beat graves top with maokai

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