Darius's Q is on a 3 Second Cooldown And Can Heal More Than GP's Oranges

Prospector Pete·Sep 7, 2015·193 votes·6,268 views

This is not k.

87 Comments

Shadow GilgameshSep 7, 2015112 votes

Well, in fairness, isn't GP oranges true value in cleansing and not healing power?

Not saying Darius is balanced, just that you're comparing apples and, heh, oranges.

HighH1Sep 7, 201516 votes

I think comparing them is K

Remlap1223Sep 7, 201538 votes

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Well, in fairness, isn't GP oranges true value in cleansing and not healing power?

Not saying Darius is balanced, just that you're comparing apples and, heh, oranges.

Gangplank approved analogy.

BlkGolemSep 8, 20151 votes

Well it should be but since they buffed GP w (not to mention that w) it's a little op. Then there's Darius which is different but also an op mount of easy hp.

3TWarriorSep 8, 20155 votes

actually, his heal was nerfed unless you play AP tankplank

crit plank does not benefit at all and all builds depending upon AP, need at least 2000 missing health before AP to heal the same amount as his old Oranges did

Chromatic EagleSep 8, 20158 votes

I never understood that phrase. They're both fruits. They have seeds. You can plant them into trees. You make juices out of them. That's how you compare apples and oranges.

LICENSED HOOKERSep 8, 20151 votes

but are pears and avocados the same?

Chromatic EagleSep 8, 20151 votes

They don't have to be the same to be compared.

League of PotatoSep 8, 20151 votes

You can plant them into trees.

....what? That's not how that works.

Chromatic EagleSep 8, 20151 votes

You plant the seeds and they turn into trees, or whatever the process is.

Rubber JesusSep 8, 20152 votes

You explained the phrase in your post. They are both very similar, and yet very different, at the same time.

You know, like apples and oranges?

MorsigilSep 9, 20151 votes

I prefer this presentation:

"Two dead perps. The first lacerated, burnt, and then chased down by multiple black powder explosives. The other one exsanguinated and what appears to be dunked."

Caruso: "I guess it's true what they say, Frank. Nobody wins..."

Caruso puts on his shades.

"...When you compare apples to oranges."

YEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

Troll for TrumpSep 9, 20151 votes

if Darius had a minicleanse on his kit to avoid kitability... yeah then he would be OP. He has a larger heal to compensate for his greater kitability and less of a global prescence. Gp has the global ult and less damage.

Except prenerf GPs wombo barrel combo prettymuch oneshotted squishies.

MannysmokerSep 7, 201544 votes

Well Gangplank gets a free item 3140 every now and then so, is K

Remlap1223Sep 7, 201515 votes

Lol who gives a fuck about the heal. The 16 second summoner 1 is what we play Pirate McPirateson for.

worlds adriftSep 7, 20156 votes

Well, yea and that when a barrel crits someone they are fucking destroyed and slowed by a billion Gangplank

DurzakaSep 7, 201525 votes

15-30% MISSING hp, only when you hit with the blade. On a skill that has a wind up.

junglerboy16Sep 7, 20157 votes

the wind up is of almost zero detriment if he's facing another melee since it doesn't slow him down in any way and (assuming they bug-fixed it like they were supposed to) he can even flash during the windup.

The delay was such a small nerf it's laughable.

DurzakaSep 7, 201516 votes

If youre melee against darius you dont try and avoid the attack, you step inside it to avoid the blade.

So no, the wind up is a big fucking deal for doing that.

TheScholarlyDudeSep 8, 20152 votes

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If youre melee against darius you dont try and avoid the attack, you step inside it to avoid the blade.

So no, the wind up is a big fucking deal for doing that.

No one steps into it yet. Until people do that they should hold off on nerfs.

GhostOfShrimpmasSep 8, 20152 votes

Are you implying that because people aren't taking advantage of a champion's clearly defined weaknesses and are crying OP because of their failure to try to counter it, then we shouldn't nerf someone?

riot hire this man

Troll for TrumpSep 9, 20151 votes

sounds like zed.

SpecterVonBarenSep 8, 20152 votes

If you walk into him then that means once his q finishes he's going to use his w on you to slow you and then start autoing you and then when you try to walk away he'll then pull you back in for more... and then ult you for true damage.

Troll for TrumpSep 9, 20151 votes

the wind-up flaw is really huge and will likely be darius's downfall. Right now he is strong as no one realyl know how to deal with him effectively yet, but he will probably be worse off than prenerf darius in the long run, which might be what riot wanted; to eliminate his dominance in the meta as a lane bully

Hayaishi2Sep 7, 201523 votes

Because Darius' Q isn't his main damage tool or anything.

Darius' Q removes CC and heals him without hitting anything right?

Good shitpost.

TacoTheKittenSep 8, 201511 votes

WHY IS EVERYONE SAYING THINGS ARE POTASSIUM AND NOT POTASSIUM?! IT MAKES NO SENSE!

PennsSep 7, 201510 votes

He has to do more than press a button and be k tho :0

pacifishstickSep 7, 20159 votes

But Darius isn't a pirate. Check and (first) mate.

ModCaptainMårvelousSep 7, 20158 votes

Yeah I enjoy how GP's oranges also strike in a massive circle around him. Or how Darius's Q cleanses all CC. Or how GP's heal is entirely reliant on hitting enemies.

MatezoideSep 7, 20155 votes

Meanwhile Darius needs to actually land his axe and Gangplank's also cleanses.

Celeste BenalSep 8, 20155 votes

You're right its not K. Its Q. Unless you remap.

DemaciaClownSep 7, 20154 votes

https://i.imgflip.com/qpao6.jpg

Perfectly put orange dont hate.

CrettSep 7, 20154 votes

Gangplank doesn't need to throw his oranges at 2 people with a 0.75 second delay to heal himself

LoLKiruSep 7, 20153 votes

This needs to be a PSA in every Darius thread from now on (just like Garen's 5.18 Villainy change in his respective threads)

5.18 has his Q getting a mana cost hit and a hit to his healing (unless he hits 3 people at once which will happen once in a blue moon when all the planets align). IF that still doesn't do the trick, Meddler mentioned its likely they'll turn his heal into a flat heal, thats still useful to him in the early and midgame, but doesn't make it so he recovers dam near half his hp lategame.

jpf31Sep 8, 20153 votes

Riot is fucking retarded. I was darius top and got ganked 3v1 and I ended up RUNNING to mid with 500 hp

Frost HellfireSep 7, 20152 votes

I just came to see a Darius main rage over this and start cursing at every living organism on this thread.

TransgressorSep 7, 20152 votes

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gaby1bestSep 8, 20151 votes

Tel me more about how Darius sucks now. Mongoloid Darius mains...

You keep using that word... I don't think it means what you think it means.

TransgressorSep 8, 20151 votes

From wikipedia: "-the term mongoloid is now considered derogatory by most anthropologists due to its association with disputed typological models of racial classification."

I may not be an anthropologist, but I sure as hell am being degrading.

gaby1bestSep 8, 20151 votes

Again, what do you think "mongoloid" means? And if you know its meaning(central asian race) why do you use it as an insult? That's quite racist of you.

ScrimshäwSep 8, 20152 votes

and soraka can heal an ally every like 2 seconds and it costs no mana, wow fucking nerf soraka

RisenDarkKnightSep 8, 20155 votes

It actually has a mana cost. It's just low.

ShockforceSep 8, 20154 votes

And a %true damage self immolation.

BoxpencilSep 8, 20152 votes

if its not k, its "ok"

The LovelessSep 8, 20152 votes

If only Darius could ignore 60% of everyone's armor and do an AoE crit for over 1k, on top of not needing to hit multiple champs to get increased healing.

MettatonSep 8, 20152 votes

It's fine, actually. There are much more serious things to address at the current time.

hgjkdlsaf jeldvbSep 8, 20152 votes

but can he see why kids love the taste of cinnamon toast crunch?

EgillionSep 8, 20152 votes

His Q spell needs to hit 1 champion (or more) with the end of his axe for that to be true. Also, you can dodge it and bait it. It's easy to outplay a darius with that :P

Then, It's not usable during a CC effect. The point of Gangplank's Oranges is TO REMOVE CC and DISABLE EFFECTS. Its first purpose is not to heal. keep that in mind.

Now that you have understood why these spells are different, you can't compare those two.

Put summoner 14 on Darius' face when you go ALL-IN for the kill and he'll die just like a creep. You don't have to thank me for the advice ^^