Thormail can't be an item everyone buys, It needs to be more like Warmog's mail

xJLx MCHammer··1 votes·235 views

The new Thormail item on PBE > Thornmail has been reworked, including new build, stats & costs, component item, and passives. > Total cost 2900g > Builds out of [Bramble Vest + Ruby Crystal + Warden's Mail + G] > Stats & Effects: > +250 Health > +75 Armor > Unique Passive - Thorns: Upon being hit by a basic attack, reflects magic damage equal to 10% of your bonus armor plus 25, inflicting Grievous Wounds on the attacker for 1 second. > Unique Passive - Cold Steel: When hit by basic attacks, reduce attacker's attack speed by 15% for 1 second.

Thormail really needs to be an item you get after you get a lot of HP and armor. Right now, warmog is an item you can't buy for massive HP. instead, you first have to invest a lot into other items before the passives start to work. Thormail needs to have this same effect so that other champions can't abuse as a first item.

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Jorencice1 votes

I mean how many champs are 100% reliant on early game life steal.

I wouldn't see early thornmail rushs screwing over too many champs.

ModKnightsKemplar1 votes

So, the implication of your post is that you do not think the 10% scaling with bonus armor is enough?

NotSpecialDude1 votes

I greatly disagree and for one simple reason.

Thornmail is a really BAD first item in most circumstances. All it provides is armor and its passive of punishing auto attackers. On its own, it offers very little. It doesn't help wave clear, It doesn't help trades in any meaningful way, nor does it have stats that make it a worthwhile rush item.

Thornmail doesn't need this change as right now its only really used against full ad teams or teams running two adcs.

xJLx MCHammer1 votes

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I greatly disagree and for one simple reason.

Thornmail is a really BAD first item in most circumstances. All it provides is armor and its passive of punishing auto attackers. On its own, it offers very little. It doesn't help wave clear, It doesn't help trades in any meaningful way, nor does it have stats that make it a worthwhile rush item.

Thornmail doesn't need this change as right now its only really used against full ad teams or teams running two adcs.

It give HP now Also, most tank items don't grant in any way wave clear. This item is gold efficient. That means champion who need some armor will now decide between 3 main items

item 3742 item 3143 or the new thormail.

NotSpecialDude1 votes

Thornmail is a late-game adc counter. Your version is counter intuitive to this intention.

Simply put, thornmail as it is can't be a justified purchase in most games because team comps have enough balance between Ap and Ad that wasting a whole item slot on solely armor is a massive waste.

This version however has HP, armor, attack speed slows, and also applies grievous wounds which is a rare but useful affliction. Why would a late game tanks NOT buy this version of thornmail over any other armor item? This item wouldn't change the early game since item 3068 would still reign as the better starting armor item.

Hawckey1 votes

Who thought it's a good idea to put health on thornmail? Holy fuck fire them

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