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Darius is Really bad with Runes reforged what can we do about it?

5 Stacks GG·11/9/2017, 11:58:28 PM·24 votes·4,500 views

He has 46% Winrate this patch and for a good reason, he lost 15% attack speed runes, 55 Damage on ult at lvl 6 with fervor and other scalings and 9 bonus ad who translate to another 12 dmg on ult.

Here is my suggestions

  • Make his Ult unlocks at Rank 2 ( lane is over by then and shouldnt be penalized by getting a proper reset) at rank 3 it cost 0 mana like now.

  • Give his ult more base damage, something like 110/220/330 from 100/200/300 could help him with the lost of fervor of battle.

  • Increase his Q blade width by 30 (250 from 220)

  • Increase the ad Darius gets from Noxian Might

  • Give him better attack speed.

  • Change Darius's Bleed and ult AD ratio to total from Base with some adjustment

Of course don't give him all of these suggestions but 1-2 of them might fix him, the ones I want the most is the first 2 suggestions.

any more ideas? what's your favorite idea?

31 Comments

RuFiot11/9/2017, 11:59:45 PM11 votes

I mean Riot shouldn't have given him those ghost nerfs and the noxian might nerfs in the first place.

2DunksFromHell11/10/2017, 12:09:00 AM9 votes

He needs better Attack Speed so he can keep using phase rush

Dunk Prophecy11/10/2017, 12:04:14 AM8 votes

BUMP THIS. OUR BOY NEEDS TO BE HEARDDarius

2DunksFromHell11/10/2017, 12:09:32 AM7 votes

Upvote this

inuitmailman11/10/2017, 1:58:30 AM6 votes

OH BUDDY YOU THINK ONLY DARIUS IS TRASH NOW? GO LOOK AT OTHERS THAT USED TO BE GOOD and yea caps were necessary im hating life and league rn :(

ME UNGA ME SMASH11/10/2017, 12:16:21 AM6 votes

Bump my boy back to playability

THE CHAD DARIUS11/10/2017, 12:38:52 AM4 votes

yep i support this

Boulderox11/10/2017, 2:03:20 AM3 votes

At least darius can be played because the new runes favor damage and damage ONLY tanks have been heavy nerfed due to the end of last season and unless you have a way to proc aftershock many times, you don't live long enough. The "new" runes are just masteries and removed runes so early game stats are gone so everyone is squishy as balls. Tank runes are too weak early and meh late aside from the select few.

Bronze 5 Teeto11/10/2017, 10:12:19 AM2 votes

Riot lets other people champ mains suffer in hell for years on end before they do anything to fix it. So I wouldnt be too optimistic they will do something for darius. I mean just look at how trash garbage udyr has been ever since he got knocked out with nerf upon nerf upon critical item removal upon unfavorable meta change,,,, like jesus dude... and they just finally have given that champ some playabllity back after 2 YEARS!

Critmaster Garen11/10/2017, 2:02:20 AM2 votes

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he lost 15% attack speed runes

i mean. he gets 18% attack speed from precision. i understand that darius winrate took a dive this patch, but that cant be the reason.

Hentai Džinks12/2/2017, 1:35:09 AM1 votes

As a Darius main with over 1.5 m mastery points he is kinda shit in preseason because no rune setup is proper for him. Take press the attack and u end up with tons of attack speed and no extra ad to favor his passive or noxian guillotine. Take othe rpath and u get extra ad but his atk speed is so slow it makes your eyes hemorrhage xd. So the buffs IMO should be as following:

  1. Increase his bleed base damage and scaling ( 10 - 27 + 30% B.AD 15 - 32 +40% B.AD)
  2. Increase his Q base damage early but reduce it as it levels up ( 40/70/100/130/160 60/80/100/120/140)
  3. Noxian Might bonus AD 30/30/30/35/35/35/40/50/60/70/80/90/100/120/140/160/180/200 30 - 200 (20 + 10 per level)
ghostfinder5112/18/2017, 12:09:24 AM1 votes

Darius now is not that bad if you go grasp and buy titanic hydra for some good reason

  1. Your grasp dose more damage the more you get hp
  2. And titanic hydra give you more damage and it help you stack hp So the build now is very good on him is : Black cleaver - Titanic Hydra - starkes gage and go armor if the enemy team have a lot a damage and go mr if the enemy team have alot of magic damage and boots go mobility Boots it really good on him ...
RocketRelm11/10/2017, 1:03:18 AM1 votes

I think I like the idea of upping the changing the bleed to Total AD most as a starting point. The bleed was mostly unallowed to be Total AD because Fervor warped it, but Fervor is no longer there.

He may need more buffs from there, but I think this is one everyone can agree on.

Tychusfindlay91811/10/2017, 4:01:08 AM1 votes

of those, my top three suggestions are:

#1 q blade nerf partial revert

#2 noxian might nerf revert

#3 ult base damage increase

I dont believe he should get attack speed, I dont believe full reset at level 11 will really make ALL that much of a difference, and I'm not sure if it's possible to really make all of his scalings total while making him feel the same as he is right now, bonus and total ad scalings are too different and serve different purposes. total AD has to be really small with ratios because you start off with a gigantic chunk at level 1, but then that discourages building a lot of AD because the scalings make it hard to justify.

Those are my two cents. Givin darius attack speed is my least favorite of them all because it begins to defeat the purpose of his rework in the juggernaut update, and as such, I wholeheartedly believe that that change in particular should be avoided like the plague.

PhDs Nuts11/10/2017, 5:10:34 AM1 votes

This season will be Ardent Censer 2.0. If it doesn't abuse the runes, it won't be viable.

Stormraider was better on Darius than Fervor tbh, but the lack of actual runes destroys his early game against champions that synergize with (abuse) the new system.

ReZisT Lust11/10/2017, 5:11:20 AM1 votes

run him with the pet that follows you and the burn dmg and your poke becomes better and fun as a killer has such an adorable pet

Salron11/10/2017, 7:27:24 AM1 votes

Nearly every Darius I saw in the old system took stormraiders which means fervor removal shouldn't affect his ult dmg

He just needs more AS and to have the last 2-3 nerfs he got reverted

Troll for Trump11/10/2017, 9:56:02 AM1 votes

You don't want to give him more AD and make him lean towards being an AD caster, he just needs more atk speed.

The reason he's shafted is because the runes either pigeonhole you into being a tank, adc, assassin, mage or whatever the heck inspiration is.

Darius, and most juggernauts don't align well in either; when they go for tank, they don't do enough dmg, and get overshadowed by other tank mobility. When you go for ADC to get DPS, you end up being too squishy.

Bronze 5 Teeto11/10/2017, 9:58:46 AM1 votes

where u getting ur data for this patch?

lolipopevelynn11/10/2017, 1:30:12 PM1 votes

People are building him wrong. Main tree precision, press the attack, and coup de grace. Precision tree also gives tenacity for some reason. 2nd tree domination for eyeball stacking or resovle for tankiness

deepfriedchicken11/15/2017, 2:35:53 AM1 votes

My idea is to have him reforge his axe. afterall, its realy chipped and blunt