Orianna is too good Riot feedback please

Holomovement··2 votes·1,344 views

Team fight is too good, she's an easy pick if you want a champion for team fights. A lot of team compositions are hard to deduct, in diamond 4 & lower, a lot of people don't know what makes a good team comp besides the obvious things (i.e. yasuo malph.) Orianna is a too easy pick if you want a champion that provides a team comp BY HERSELF. She's a great counter to assassins which i'm fine with, but to an extent. Assassins need a counter, but Orianna is tooo safe in lane in my opinion. She's not risking anything because she has a skill shot that stays where it lands, and never goes away (unless chosen to,) and can be moved from where it is. She's the only champion in the game that can do this, even azir can't do it. They literally made azirs way to move his soldier an actual ability, so it's almost as if Riot was thinking and making sure they don't accidently make another Orianna. She's Azir 2.0, hard to gank because she has a shield AND a huge speed increase, you can't even take advantage of if her ball is too far from her during the gank, because the ball is incredibly fast...this provides no advantage window at all, unlike zed or leblanc who can be baited their get-away spells. Now, i'm not an assassin player, i'm not making this because i play zed, i main jungle and yasuo. Lately i've been doing 5s ranked with friends and with us just starting out its lower elo and since people don't really know good team compositions besides the obvious, Orianna is ALWAYS picked. Shes too good in the team fight, and she's too good to beat in lane. Even if your the one pushing mid lane, and doing well, she's still able to CS because she doesn't have to put herself at risk, the ball farms for her. This is a rigged kit in this game in my opinion, its way too strong. They pick her a lot in LCS as well. Literally watching a game right now with her winning. She's too good man, really great defense & offense champion. She's like a step behind Lulu's defense, except she has a unique AOE ult too. God kit.

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Voluug134 votes

Sorry, I kinda crashed on your text wall.

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

Holy Wall-of-Text Batman!

Rico Nasty1 votes

..except she has a crazy amount of counterplay, has crippling mana costs (125 mana for one of her combos at lvl 2), is squishy, doesn't do much damage until mid or late game. Orianna is really balanced imo. I think people are just now realizing that she's actually viable, cause nobody played her for a while.

Holomovement1 votes

mm i dont think she has that much mana problems pre-chalice. Like i've seen some oriannas spam that ball pretty bad to harrass and get farm, but i can see using it whenever its off cd to run out of mana, and yeah using the combo. but when she gets chalice she has no mana problems. orianna is one of the best farmers because she can spam so bad, ive seen gold players get 200 cs with her at 20 minutes. Mana is the least of her problems. and if you guys all tried playing 5s which is completely different then solo Q, I think you'd notice how much more strong she is and you guys would agree with me a little more. And people have always picked orianna a lot lol, shes a safe pick when you dont know the counters of a champ.

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

She's Azir 2.0

That moment when you realize that Orianna came out 3 years before Azir

Holomovement1 votes

i know that lol

Nucleophilic atk1 votes

Ori is not OP.

Holomovement1 votes

what

Abyssphere1 votes

"She's not risking anything because she has a skill shot that stays where it lands, and never goes away (unless chosen to,) and can be moved from where it is. She's the only champion in the game that can do this, even azir can't do it."

That might have something to do with Orianna's ball not doing anything on the field. Azir's soldiers are constantly putting out damage for free while they're alive, the ball doesn't.

Holomovement1 votes

But the thing is is it's not a skill shot that dissapears if you miss, it stays where it is and whats the cd like 4 seconds, and if the enemy is farming for example, the ball will be like, close as f*ck, you know. so its an easy skill shot, "not doing anything on the field," so she's just a useless champ then? the ball does nothing?

Abyssphere1 votes

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But the thing is is it's not a skill shot that dissapears if you miss, it stays where it is and whats the cd like 4 seconds, and if the enemy is farming for example, the ball will be like, close as f*ck, you know. so its an easy skill shot, "not doing anything on the field," so she's just a useless champ then? the ball does nothing?

You can't miss her ball. Orianna doesn't just throw out her ball to do damage, she puts it out to exert control over an area. Her Q should be an easy skillshot to hit damage-wise because every other mage's main harass is easy to hit.

The ball doesn't do anything unless Orianna activates another ability. It has no persistent effect whatsoever when laying around on the field, that is what I meant. It's allowed to stay around forever because it's the only pet without a persistent effect - can you really compare the ball floating harmlessly to an Azir soldier or a Zyra pet constantly attacking? It's completely different. The ball is nothing, it's just a means by which she can deliver her other abilities. It staying around as long as she wants is good design - she's a zone control mage.

BerserkGoldfish1 votes

ummmm.... shes a utility mage. weird thing for a support/utility mage to have tricks up their sleeve isn't it.

If people can gank the donger, they can gank Ori.

Like theres so many mages that do her job better, especially at low elo(sup challenger) (zyra/annie/anivia). Shes one of the hardest champs to play well to boot.

all I got out of this is "Ori players use strategy to take advantage of their utility"

I mean at least they nerfed her from what she used to be.

Holomovement1 votes

ummm.... bronze 5, not taking your knowledge credible

BerserkGoldfish1 votes

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ummm.... bronze 5, not taking your knowledge credible

I really don't see what my rank has to do with game knowledge.

Do you think coaches and analysts are the best mechanical players? Do I necessarily know the nuances of rotations and stuff as well as I should? no, because I don't get practice doing them. But I sure as hell have a solid grasp on general overall knowledge after playing this game since s2.

and yes im b5 because I tanked my mmr season 2, ever tried to climb out of 600's MMR?

now back to using an argument that isn't "but you're bronze".....

KamakaziGumiBear1 votes

You play Yaso, and Nid and you think Ori is imbalanced.... The gears in this ones head just dont connect.

Holomovement1 votes

ya youre right nid is broken af, yasuo not as much shitty lane phase, but yeah i can see your point like id agree with a nerf on nidalee as well.

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