So I hate to say it: Malz's ult is the only part of his kit that makes him an issue

Hammermancer··2 votes·641 views

Like the rest of his kit, even at its worst with the minions, was nothing without the ult

why not just rework his ult somehow and then shift that power back into his kit so he isn't just "I wait for 2 minutes then press my abilities and r for killz"

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Oleandervine1 votes

His ult is unique though, and I believe it can be balanced. They merely need to shift him more into a DOT/chip-away mage. As his kit is now, he uses his minions and his DOT to deal a lot of damage, so if his ult lost a lot of it's damage, and was shifted to be basically a suppress to allow his minions to do most of the grunt work, his kit would be interesting.

Its All Skillzz1 votes

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His ult is unique though, and I believe it can be balanced. They merely need to shift him more into a DOT/chip-away mage. As his kit is now, he uses his minions and his DOT to deal a lot of damage, so if his ult lost a lot of it's damage, and was shifted to be basically a suppress to allow his minions to do most of the grunt work, his kit would be interesting.

point click surpress that can be stopped by anything but QSS is no way balanced. ww had it as a melee an it was still extremely toxic.

Paroe2 votes

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point click surpress that can be stopped by anything but QSS is no way balanced. ww had it as a melee an it was still extremely toxic.

ANd malzahar is immobile with no hard CC outside his ult. You want to rework malzahar? You wanna make him have a different ult?

His E now deals %missingHP damage and. His Q now slows if anyone hit has his E. His W no longer has the tether and has 25% of malzahars maxHP+its base HP

His ult? His ult creates a giant pool of silence which proliferates his E and makes his minions spawn more minions on hit, and scales in size based on malzahars AP.

You CANNOT have an immobile mage who is not super tanky via drain tanking, who doesnt have a ton of good CC, or doesnt have insane pushing power. Malzahar as he is right now is not tanky, doesnt have good CC, and doesnt have good pushing power.

Zane Zephyr1 votes

His ultimate did lose a lot of damage

Post update it was doing only max hp damage and it was so awful that they had to split it and give it some base damage as well as some max HP and it still does crap for damage unless he has items and you used the rest of your kit on them already

Zane Zephyr1 votes

Malzahar himself also stands still during the duration of it and outside of his ult he has literally no way to defend himself apart from his Q that can be dodged and most of the time doesn't help you if someone's already on top of you.

Malzahar is designed to be anti-mobility mage. Without his ult there's literally no reason to pick him. Thanks to constant nerfs his waveclear is really bad early on and a lot of people can outshove him.

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