I think you just Pulverized Alistar with this new nerf

darkdill·Mar 9, 2016·5 votes·848 views

#Alistar **Triumphant Roar (E) ** Mana cost increased to 50/65/80/95/110 from 50/60/70/80/90 Heal reduced to 60/75/90/105/120 from 60/90/120/150/180

EDIT: Scarizard says these numbers were unintended to hit PBE. https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/49pmms/39_pbe_update/d0ty0ep

13 Comments

Doctor JarvisMar 9, 20162 votes

CONTEXT BOMB: So, what you're seeing here was never intended to hit PBE. This is an example of us testing with extremes - while the designer working on Alistar changes is likely to tune his heal this patch, this was a check-in for a very specific goal. That is, 'Let's do some gross outrageous numbers just to find the breaking point and see how far we can go'. It's intended to be pretty out of line, and then used as a base to tune from (i.e. if 110 mana / 120 healing is unplayable and 90 mana / 180 healing is overtuned, where do we move the lever etc).

Thanks to an error in our overlay system, this got out sooner than expected. We're definitely targeting Alistar this patch (and likely his E spell), but not necessarily this hard or in this way (potentially changing mechanics over numbers).

-Scarizard

darkdillMar 9, 20161 votes

Interesting.

EDIT: Found source.

https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/49pmms/39_pbe_update/d0ty0ep

ZarkkastMar 9, 20161 votes

I guess I won't be maxing E first anymore.

darkdillMar 9, 20161 votes

I normally just put 3 early points in E and then maxed Q then W.

ZarkkastMar 9, 20161 votes

I always max E first, except when against Morgana.

Then I go for the W so my W can take out her shield and I can proceed to stun with my Q.

VeraskaMar 9, 20161 votes

Probably, his E is kinda conflicting with the rest of hit kit and it muddies up his counterplay

darkdillMar 9, 20161 votes

The big question is what would be a good replacement E.

ValyrianBladeMar 9, 20161 votes

The better point is that Riot purposely removed a skillful element of a good champion, which necessitated making a nerf on him due to his consistency/ease-of-play putting him over the top.

Sucks to be any Alistar player who was good at landing his W-Q combo.

Van DarkholmeMar 9, 20161 votes

Alistar was a character who effectively had two one-point-wonder skills and the only real (admittedly very arbitrary) skill-cap part of his kit was removed. Not terribly surprising that he's getting Printer from Office Space'd.

AnagsMar 9, 20161 votes

Were people maxing e first? I never did and he still felt fine. I feel like it's best use is just to proc his passive anyway.

Heal and run through minions. He will be fine if they don't touch his ult and cc abilities.

darkdillMar 9, 20161 votes

Riot's gonna say that the issue is that it screws up Alistar's supposed weakness to poke.

RyùuzakiMar 9, 20161 votes

wow so it can barely heal people so rightnow his e is just a cheap trick to proc his passive 1 more time when engaging...which doesn't do that much dmg riot you're better than this don't just nerf things change them instead

darkdillMar 9, 20161 votes

Check what Scarizard said: the above number change was unintentional. It'll probably be reverted by tomorrow.