Some champions deserve more design than "this one ability in one form deals a lot of damage".

Nothing pisses me off more than pointing out that it's unhealthy and I just get bombarded with "lmao you're just mad cuz you can't beat it". Whether I/we win the game against it or not is irrelevant to how blatantly unhealthy it is.

Yeah, I would like Shyvana's identity to be more than "Press Q and erase 70% of someone's HP" Its pretty annoying especially when she's too beefy and DMP makes her too fast to escape. Shyvana is probably the most annoying On-hit builder in the game right now

I saw this post and expected it to be about , but AP is also a pretty good example. To be fair though, she wasn't designed to have her AP build be the main one. TBH there are a couple champs where they just build AP and sacrifice the majority of their kit just to have one ability do way more damage than normal, think and . Your right though, these kinda build can be pretty unsatisfying to play against because it just become "dodge this one ability or get chunked so low a can dive you." If they want to give champions the ability to build entirely different core stats so that they can adapt to their match up, they should try to see if they can do it in a way that doesn't make the champion so linear. How you would do that though is beyond me.

Idk, Aatrox is another example of this problem.

Tbf, that's not how she's supposed to function, that's just how silly people build her. I could build AP ashe and use your same argument. It'd be just as valid - not very.

That's the exact issue I have with Karma (despite loving and maining her for years). Having nearly all your damage in one projectile is toxic af, The single projectile is usually too strong, while the whole kit lacks in damage. There is no balancing this.

Whenever a champion works like that, people hate them to pieces, like showed repeatedly!

I find AP Shyvanna fine this way... if it still was the wonky off-meta build it USED to be, not her supposed build. If you opt into something thats a bit weird and inefficient (like AP Lucian), it's fine, but forcing it on people is not okay.

Just saying also falls to the same category almost all her damage is In the q.