Which is mostly 
even 
Like whats the weakness of a champ with the damage of a carry, the defense of a tank and still almost the mobility of an assassin?
and friends can be annoying too but at least you dont have to fight them. When a Heca runs at you with 700 move speed or Vi jumps on you with Q R...?
MLDzXnRRR3 votesSo you want to facetank melees when you are playing glasscannon? Or you want the fighters to build squishy? (This won't happen unless RITO decides to delete all the heavy CC characters from the game).
Big Lincoln2 votesremember when bruisers built ravenous hydra and at least 1 other damage item
I miss those days, nobody buys ravenous anymore
Mountain Warden2 votesThey are the next big class update so I doubt Riot will invest a lot of resources balancing them until the update.
Penns1 votesI just hope they either get some counterplay or have to start building more damage in that rework. Why play assassins when "divers" are literally tank assassins lol.
Mountain Warden1 votesI just hope they either get some counterplay or have to start building more damage in that rework. Why play assassins when "divers" are literally tank assassins lol.
No argument from me. Hecarim and Vi in particular really need some rebalancing. Jax is strong but only when really fed. Irelia can be a batch of cookies but her damage doesn't "feel" as strong as the others on this list.
Illaoi is OP AF if you ask me but she's a juggernaut so not a focus of this discussion. Also an honorable mention should go to Wukong who didn't make your list of divers in need of a spanking with a nerf bat.
Erockandroll1 votes[{quoted}](name=Mountain Warden,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dXAAYbsw,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-01-17T16:41:26.333+0000)
They are the next big class update so I doubt Riot will invest a lot of resources balancing them until the update.
Unless my knowledge is out of date, they were still debating between Divers and possibly Vanguards.
Hige2 votesout of those, the only one who can actually escape from a dive is Hecarim.
but...
think, if you have one of those champs on every comp, the game is probably pretty balanced and skill determined... ha, and they say adcs are a staple for every team :P
Ralanr1 votesI agree that triforce is really dumb. It shouldn't be the single damage item you need when it provides such variety in stats (at least BC is specialized).
Penns1 votesYeah it feels like every champ that can rush tforce is broken. Even Jax who is apparently "weak" atm is broken af imo lol.
ned the kled1 votesHeca isn't a tank...
