Why's viegars ultimate targeted and not a skillshot? Curiousity

AMADEUSdotEXE··1 votes·560 views

Most (projectile [i feel odd saying this]) ultimates (to my knowledge that do about or more base damage than viegars ultimate are skillshots.) rivens ult does quite a bit of damage as she scales throughout the game, ekkos is somewhat of a skillshot and I'm sure we've all seen how much damage release ekkos ultimate did with how awkward it can be to time/land, Aurelion Sol's ultimate did ALOT more damage when he was released, If we count nidalees spear which punishes players for not standing behind minions, and im sure there are other champions that I've forgotten to meantion. Personally I don't really like fighting or playing against him mainly because of how much damage he does (he has to earn it but slightly faster than nasus.) My feelings aside, this is just a question i ask myself occasionally. Is it because the skill is an execution type ability? I've generally tried to compare his ultimate to Fizz's (pre-nerf to post) and Viegars. Fizz originally just needed to land the skillshot to get the massive damge he wanted but is now rewarded for landing it at greater distances and realistically can do a tremendous amount of damage to a target with a low overall health pool. With viegars he realistically needs about a good 15 minutes of farm or 10- 15 with a good amount of kills to make you respect his massive damage which continues to scale if he is allowed to farm (lets be honest you cant babysit him forever.) He isn't all that difficult for me to fight, I'm just a bit curious. TL;DR Title.

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Xavanic3 votes

its because hes super reliant on it to kill anyone early to mid game, generally he will suffer against anyone with decent mobility and with his other 2 damage skills being skill shots, its not really fair to make his EXECUTE ultimate into one aswell, theirs already so many ways to dodge it that it still feels weak, if it were a skill shot, it might as well not be in his kit in general, as he already struggles to land his q and w if someone dodges his stun, plus, alot of other execute abilites are also targeted, look at darius/garen/voli/lee/warwick/ekko/elise/jhin (his ult is a skill shot, but his 4th shot on his passive also executes) , the only one i can think of that isnt is jinx and her ult makes up for it by having a mile wide hitbox and global range, jsut think of this, if they make it a skill shot, they have to give him more power to compensate as now his kit has nearly no consistency outside his q, could you imagine him with an ult similar to rivens?

SeCKS Egai1 votes

Veigar originally only had the hardest stun to land - now he also has to be mindful of it with his q, which originally didn't have to worry about being blocked by minions or other champions.

His ultimate used to do additional damage based on the enemy target's ap - it essentially could one shot most mages long before the dark matter was built up enough to do it on its own.

At the same time, he's really vulnerable to mobility, which the game's direction has taken since his release.

I like the direction they took with him although I miss the old baleful. I really like that he actually has a useful passive given there are so many mobile alternatives to choose from in mid lane.

TyroneWatermelon1 votes

For the same reason Syndra and lee sin's ult aren't skillshots.

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