When will they bring back the REVIVE?!

You might ask if...

they will ever revive it.

The thing that just upsets everyone ( me at least), is that they didnt say a damn word when they removed it. It's just.. more like a "fuck you" to its playerbase. Who the hell decided , "oh, lets remove revive from the game because... i just want to!"

They're going to do the same thing here as they do to all Revive discussions: ignore it and wait for people to stop talking about it. They don't want to come forth with their contradicting reasoning because they don't like being called liars or hypocrites when it comes to design and balance - therefore to them, it's better if they just ignore it.

Their egos override even the idea of a debate because they know they could be proven to be dishonest. It's disgusting and wrong, and they should know better than this by now, but why not bypass this whole thing and just give Revive back? After all, you guys really had no reason to take it away in the first place...

saw how dangerous it was and removed it from the game

Most of people used it for trolling but I do agree they are going towards wrong direction.

I dont have a big opinion on revive but I do believe they need to stop getting rid of all spells when they keep all the other trash spells that nobody uses.

At least someone like PL used revive karthus and Hecarim also used rev/tp at one point. While revive could make an impact and some people loved it, I have no idea why Riot got rid of it when they wanted to keep clairvoyance (blue trinket wtf?) and what not.

the reason they removed revive was because the point of it (dying to then get into the fight again (with more movespeed)) is basically against the games concept

As a Karthus main I support this. I think the revive removal decision was stupid.

Rito doesn't like diversity in their game

Yeah i wish for revive back not gonna lie.

We need the zombie back revive, passive, guardian angel, and then full tank.

lol I remember those days.

I think they're reason for it was that only really one group of players used it consistently, and that was Karthus players. And it was a really easy spell to troll with, with entire teams sometimes going just mid with teleport/ignite and revive.

Am I the only one who actually clicked on the image and noticed almost all of those scores with Karthus are pretty damn bad for a Karthus..? o.o

Honestly I believe they removed revive because of Ekko. Given how long it takes to create champions (months to years) they probably thought Ekko would make it into the game eventually and saw a good opportunity to remove a factor that would imbalance him beyond any reasonable fixes.

To be fair, there weren't a ton of uses for Revive.

Despite that, the times people found uses for them like Revive-Teleport Karthus was great and the thing is that it actually worked extremely well, was crazy fun, and it even made it into Ranked Games.

Riot most likely removed Revive because people used it to troll/feed. But honestly Flash, Teleport, and Smite were probably used more as troll spells than Revive so I believe in that logic, those three spells should of been removed before this one was.

Even if spells like Clarity, Clairvoyance, Cleanse, etc are still largely unused, I still find uses for them and they work really well on some champions and even then at the very least, you can still use it in Normal games.

I think the problem wasn't trolling - it didn't really so much "open your competitive options" as "lessen the punishment you take when you screw up." And since it cost you a summoner... You probably could have used flash instead of revive and just lived most of the times you would have used it. Karthus is pretty much the only champion this makes even a little sense on. And if we're talking about summoners that were only good on one champion - Surge was pretty good an plenty of champions. (Especially Cho. More big.)

I'm going to advocate that Revive, at its very core, promoted a negative outlook- you might not think it directly, but it's instinctive to the spell. When you take Revive, you assume you're going to die. Granted yes, it probably will happen- but if you only die twice that's a summoner you only used... twice- in the entire game.

It's the only summoner with an explicit condition that requires either good enemy play or bad personal/team play to be useful- TP can always be used somewhere because minions/towers, flash can always be used, ignite will be usable because it just requires being near-ish the enemy, &c &c- there's no outstanding play for them to be useful, just conditions that are constantly being met.

In addition, there's no time when Revive actually gives you something (except maybe the speed boost with Hecarim, but that's VERY specific)- every other spell gives something for you to work with; Revive simply cushions what the enemy gets. Revive just lowers the damage to your tower, your death time, and your lost CS- while TP gives cross-map movement/play potential in addition to 2/3 of the things revive gives; Flash gives an instant in/out card; Ghost gives engage potential from longer distance and through minion waves; &c &c.