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For as overloaded as his kit is, Ekko is actually ok with me

Mafia LeBlanc··5 votes·918 views

I'll set one thing straight first - I've never played Ekko myself, so take what I'm saying with a grain of salt. I've seen plenty of Ekko's carry games and go ridiculous 19/2 scores, or something, but it's nothing I haven't seen Zed/Talon/LeBlanc, or any other assassin do. I actually smile a bit when the enemy picks Ekko, because I actually find him really fun to fight against - it actually feels like a fair matchup. Now compare this to laning against something like Heimer, Chogath, or Ryze - THOSE I feel are frustrating, unfun, and all that. Either they have so much sustain or safety in lane, or they become so ungodly tanky that it's completely pointless to fight them once they reach the point of no return.

Now I'm a main AP MID, so it's rare I see an Ekko on my team, so usually I'm facing them in mid when I do see one. I used to be afraid of him because of what I read on the forums, so I would play extremely defensively against him until I learned how to read what he's going to do.

I do not find him difficult to beat; he's actually one of the easier matchups for me. I even play Evelynn mid, and can win lane against him rather easily - and with him being underfed, he tends to fall behind later in game and doesn't really pick up. His skillshots are slow and predictable, and his stun requires him to get dangerously close, while you stand in his field for him to pull it off.

I've faced him quite a few times, and no matter what champ I'm playing, I've never felt like he is oppressive, and I've never felt frustrated when he does kill me, because it's him exploiting a big mistake I made, rather than him just being blatantly overpowering. I haven't really seen him tweaked a huge amount since release, when I saw topic after topic complaining about him, but maybe I'm wrong and he's a lot different now than he was on release.

I wouldn't complain if a teammate picked him, because he certainly does have carry potential, as any assassin should, I honestly think he's one of the best releases in recent history. Then again, I haven't seen a Tank Ekko yet, so I might change my tone when that comes around.

13 Comments

LaserDeathBlade3 votes

I hate Ekko

He's just Zed except does way more damage and has CC and a gigantic shield, and can build Zhonyas Whoreglass

I'd honestly rather play vs pre-nerf Zed

Mafia LeBlanc2 votes

I think Cho'Gath's kit is far more overloaded than Ekko's - he has a knockup, silence, and massive true damage, on top of being one of the tankiest champions in the game - it just is so frustrating to fight him because of how snowbally he is. It feels like if you don't get the edge on him before he hits six, you're fucked for the rest of the game and he will just farm farm farm without you being able to do anything about it, and he still has really high kill potential in lane - if you fail to dodge a single Q from Cho and he follows up with Silence/Ult, you're going to lose 3/4s of your HP if you're playing almost any non-tank AP mid.

Ekko has a lot in his kit - but he doesn't punish mistakes NEARLY as hard, and doesn't make me want to smash the keyboard when he is picked. And even if he does get a lead, he still goes pop when you do get a good gank on him, and his ult clone gives you potential to outplay him by forcing him to R into a bad position when he gets ganked. In fact, all of his skills have built in outplay potential, instead of a instant-cast aoe 2+ sec silence that chunks 1/3 your HP.

KONO RUBICK DA1 votes

knock up ok silence ok massive true damage? how is 500-600 on a single target true damage is "massive?"

Gigahappytown1 votes

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knock up ok silence ok massive true damage? how is 500-600 on a single target true damage is "massive?"

Yeah ye see if atleast 1 of those abilitys took skill to land then it would be balanced

YossarianSensei1 votes

Cho's Q is so easy to dodge that I don't have a problem with it doing a ton of damage

His E and Ult are Melee, so he needs tank stats to be even remotely useful

AtheosisX1 votes

I just get tired of the spastic new kits. So much going on all the time. It's not that they are overpowered necessarily. It's just exhausting to lane against them.

SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

Yepp, he's by far one of the best designed assassins out there. Maybe with the one or other number tuned a bit too high, but I would rather play against him than against a Katarina...

Gigahappytown1 votes

Ekko is balanced his kit was never overloaded simply overtunned Stop throwing around buzz words He takes skill to play effecitnly and has more than enough counterplay

AtheosisX1 votes

Nah, it's overloaded. He used the term properly.

Gigahappytown1 votes

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Nah, it's overloaded. He used the term properly.

Its not overloaded proven by the fact a few number nerfs fixed him. If it was overloaded it would of taken a lot more to fix him.

LilxPaprika1 votes

i love it , playing it as we speak. I do think it was a bit overwhelming at release but the numbers are bearable.

YossarianSensei1 votes

Builds off-tank, 100-0's back line

"balanced"

Lafouboy1 votes

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I'll set one thing straight first - I've never played Ekko myself, so take what I'm saying with a grain of salt. I've seen plenty of Ekko's carry games and go ridiculous 19/2 scores, or something, but it's nothing I haven't seen Zed/Talon/LeBlanc, or any other assassin do. I actually smile a bit when the enemy picks Ekko, because I actually find him really fun to fight against - it actually feels like a fair matchup. Now compare this to laning against something like Heimer, Chogath, or Ryze - THOSE I feel are frustrating, unfun, and all that. Either they have so much sustain or safety in lane, or they become so ungodly tanky that it's completely pointless to fight them once they reach the point of no return.

Now I'm a main AP MID, so it's rare I see an Ekko on my team, so usually I'm facing them in mid when I do see one. I used to be afraid of him because of what I read on the forums, so I would play extremely defensively against him until I learned how to read what he's going to do.

I do not find him difficult to beat; he's actually one of the easier matchups for me. I even play Evelynn mid, and can win lane against him rather easily - and with him being underfed, he tends to fall behind later in game and doesn't really pick up. His skillshots are slow and predictable, and his stun requires him to get dangerously close, while you stand in his field for him to pull it off.

I've faced him quite a few times, and no matter what champ I'm playing, I've never felt like he is oppressive, and I've never felt frustrated when he does kill me, because it's him exploiting a big mistake I made, rather than him just being blatantly overpowering. I haven't really seen him tweaked a huge amount since release, when I saw topic after topic complaining about him, but maybe I'm wrong and he's a lot different now than he was on release.

I wouldn't complain if a teammate picked him, because he certainly does have carry potential, as any assassin should, I honestly think he's one of the best releases in recent history. Then again, I haven't seen a Tank Ekko yet, so I might change my tone when that comes around.

"Tank Ekko" Yeah, jungle Tank Ekko is fucking fun to play (and pretty powerful). Personally, because his AP ratios are so low now, I think he is a better jungle tank than AP assassin now.

Just remember; Trinity Force is your best friend on that build.

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