Katarina Rework/Update @Meddler ?

HadesBlades··1 votes·587 views

Katarina <- I am going to be honest here, I love Katarina I have 91k points on her, love her skins, her lore, and even her VO. I think it's time to be honest with myself though her kit is overall in a bad state in today's meta, she is very feast famine and her overall snowball requirements are for the enemy team to mess up positioning. A champ that punishes a team or enemy member that is out of position is FINE we need that, but Katarina feels like such a liability when you play her. And I say that because when I spectate Katarina players in higher Elos Plat+ her susceptibility to CC just leaves her utterly useless in a meta that requires a form of tanky cc, along with champs that can kite way better than before.

Let me just go over her kit and some buffs/kit rework ideas

**Voracity **- "Katarina reduces the cooldown on all of her abilities by 15 seconds whenever an enemy champion dies within 3 seconds of being damaged by her."

^ Honestly best assassin style design in the game I actually like this passive because it promotes assassination rather than a burst mage, it forces Katarina and her players to hover around her team and be vigilant of high priority targets while timing champion cc usage, keep this when her rework comes (hopefully)

Bouncing blades- "ACTIVE: Katarina throws a dagger to the target enemy that bounces to the nearest unaffected enemy up to 4 times, dealing magic damage that is reduced by 10% for each enemy hit, down to a minimum of 50% damage, and marking each target." "Katarina's basic attacks and abilities consume the mark on affected enemies, dealing bonus magic damage."

^Honestly this is a pretty generic poke tool in lane since Katarina is melee but it lacks individuality and doesn't help her too much with farming. I get that Katarina is suppose to be a weaker in lane, but today she has a worse time laning against those that she use to go even with and with the TP nerfs she lost a lot of viable ganking patterns weakening her even more. Riot just scrap it imo and create something that allows for a safer farm pattern and a more interesting interaction than just Q+E+W+R=kill I think there are many cooler roads to go down when it comes to procing the second effect of abilities.

**Sinister Steel- **ACTIVE: Katarina whirls her daggers, dealing magic damage to all nearby enemies. If Sinister Steel damages an enemy champion, she also gains bonus movement speed for 1 second.

^Ok this is a pretty generic burst ability, which I will admit offers some different ability scaling if you are facing melee match ups mid like (e.gZed ) Overall though it feels pretty boring and uninteresting, sure the speed boost is nice early to get damage off and potentially escape ganks/champion abilities but like I said Katarina is a liability and if she walks up to poke she has a large chance of getting caught out and being forced either out of lane or being killed which puts her more in a postion of a famine champ. This should be scraped riot and add something that interacts better with her E, maybe when she E+W and gets a enemy below 40% health she applies a .75 slow along with an 15%/armor and mr reduction(this of course is flat scaling % but keep the slow?)

**Shunpo **- ACTIVE: Katarina blinks to the target unit or allied ward and reduces incoming damage by 15% for 1.5 seconds. If the target is an enemy, she deals them magic damage.

^ I like quick assassin interaction this has and the damage reduction is nice too for when being in hard lane match ups or fighting a team with higher burst. I think you should keep the acitvate, reduce the 15% to 10% but let it have a better interaction with procing, so like maybe if her dagger hits all 5 creeps (or champs) procing off the 2 or 3rd hit with it increase proc damage by x%. Maybe to promote the idea of who she should go on rather than just hitting that champion right in front of her?

Deaths Lotus - ACTIVE: Katarina rapidly spins in place and channels for 2.5 seconds, throwing a dagger every 0.25 seconds to each nearby enemy champion, up to a maximum of 3 at a time, dealing them magic damage and applying Grievous Wounds icon grievous wounds for 3 seconds.

^ The ability is fine I guess, and the grevious wounds I find necessary for gameplay and balance so you can eat through some tanks. But overall it feels really boring and after you guys nerfed Katarina hard I feel its pretty lack luster until late game and if you can get to that point well by then most tanks/cc champs have the items and cdr to stop her all in and allow for the adc or burst champ to kill her off. Like I said its super situational and doesn't promote a good assassin play style unless you are facing a team that doesn't know what positioning is.

As the players of league have gotten better Katarina has become worse and worse off in the continuing meta of Season 5 and this preseason leading into season 6. I know the mage update is next (most likely) but I think its time Riot addressed some ideas/ concepts they have for Katarina and assassins in general which feel so binary and completely useless vs champs like TahmKench and Kindred or even Lulu . I also know the boards have never been to fond of the idea idea of a buffed Katarina but what do you guys think of her overall state in the meta? Should she be reworked if so how? @Meddler do you have any ideas even made up for her yet?

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Kãtãrinã2 votes

shes great in this meta are you kidding me? I'm an avid katarina player, over 100K score) and over i think 200 ranked game sin plat-diamond elo and shes great. She has no need for any changes honestly. Just need to learn a new way to play her and build with right runes/masteries for optimal use.

HadesBlades1 votes

In what match ups do you feel she is great in? Because even though when I feel I have the potential to make plays or have a really when it comes to team fighting ADCs and top lane have generally too much cc/kite abilities for me to get over. And it feels so unsatisfying if you cant get a reset because you know its the only way to get a continuous chain of damage

Kãtãrinã2 votes

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In what match ups do you feel she is great in? Because even though when I feel I have the potential to make plays or have a really when it comes to team fighting ADCs and top lane have generally too much cc/kite abilities for me to get over. And it feels so unsatisfying if you cant get a reset because you know its the only way to get a continuous chain of damage

Well maybe you shouldn't just jump in. A majority of match-ups i feel are average to easy and some r hard. Karthus, zed, yasuo, leblanc, brand ETC don't seem to hard of match-ups for me. Then again i've mained kat for almost 3 seasons and my skill score is 174.3K(by the way it would probable be much higher, yet i have 12 level 5 champions and i mostly have been trying to get as many level 5 as i can) My builds also aren't "Build these items only" they are situational depending on the match-ups.

FacerollKatarina2 votes

I'm at about 400k mastery on Kat and I don't think she needs any changes at all. She's DEFINITELY weaker than most assassins like Leblanc/Zed as far as assassination goes, but a well played katarina can perform better than most assassins in the game. Her combo is pretty predictable hence why you probably think she's in a bad state right now. It's mainly because of the newer champions that came out recently with the expect of illaoi. She's not that bad and I know riot should be looking at other assassins right now... Akali

FacerollKatarina2 votes

Looking at your match history, you haven't seemed to try gunblade katarina, I would give it a try, its a pretty good situational build And your runes seem to be all over the place for her... http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=facerollkatarina if you want check out my rune page (its called katarina 2, katarina was from last season) The first one named katarina is more of an aggressive build for early lane dominance, not that good right now tho Katarina 2 is the one I've used recently and it's pretty solid, I would give it a try, you can also swap out the ap glyphs for magic pen glyphs :)

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