Why does Garen's E scale with crit chance?

Hexs Fortune·Jun 22, 2018·1 votes·4,588 views

Is this a newb trap or am I missing something?

10 Comments

TheWizardMJun 22, 20183 votes

Noob trap? Absolutely not. It just opens the way for a pretty fun offmeta build. New players almost never play offmeta; they tend to just buy recommended items.

Warlord RhinarkJun 22, 20182 votes

It doesn't "scale" with crit chance.

It just has a crit component added to it.

Crit Garen used to be atleast semi-decent before the crit changes in 8.11

Now it's complete garbage.

KhristophorosJun 22, 20182 votes

When Garen was designed there were more options for crit such as http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Atma's_Impaler

Also, Youmuu's Ghostblade used to have crit and he could use it for movement speed.

So in the past, there were actually some ways to get crit for him without completely troll building.

They really should give him an update and get rid of that crit chance. The best way to build him for damage is full lethality now so there's no point to the crit on his kit anymore.

Attack speed on his spin would be useful because it would work with items like Trinity Force and Stormrazor.

redniwediSJun 22, 20183 votes

During the Juggernaut update back in season 5 they tried getting rid of his crit on E. Some people asked for it back, and after testing Riot decided "why not" and added it back. It's not officially part of his power budget, so removing it won't mean replacing it with anything.

Up until the IE change Garen could effectively use Infinity Edge, so crit not working well on him is a very recent development.

Critmaster GarenJun 22, 20183 votes

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They really should give him an update and get rid of that crit chance.

i disagree. they should add an attack speed scaling to his e and give him additional spins for building bonus attack speed.

item 3046 wouldnt actually be a bad item on him, if the attack speed wasnt a shitty stat for garen.

his crit scaling is one of the things that make garen unique as a juggernaut, it increases his build diversity and should be embraced. i wish theyd make

item 3031 item 3046 item 3071 item 3742 item 3053 build

or item 3095 as a single crit item as viable as his regular bruiser builds.

KhristophorosJun 22, 20181 votes

I think attack speed on his E would be great but really would you build crit chance anyways? I think it would be better to go stormrazor and then all lethality items. Crit chance kinda feels like a noob trap.

Critmaster GarenJun 22, 20182 votes

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I think attack speed on his E would be great but really would you build crit chance anyways? I think it would be better to go stormrazor and then all lethality items. Crit chance kinda feels like a noob trap.

before the recent changes, infinity edge was one of garens strongest offensive items. its a good build when you want sustained damage against all targets, while lethality is good to burst squishies.

ChaddyFantomeJun 22, 20182 votes

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they should add an attack speed scaling to his e and give him additional spins for building bonus attack speed.

Glad to see im not the only one who thought of this.

JamareeJun 22, 20181 votes

For the memelords who want to go crit Garen, so yes, noob trap.

SasogwaJun 22, 20181 votes

It is a noob trap BECAUSE for some reason Riot decided the crits from his E should be x 1.5 and not x2 (even though it would already be suboptimal at x2)