"All Random" must be the biggest joke I've ever heard

Disulfiram·Aug 16, 2017·11 votes·559 views

It is not random. There's no way that a random system could have net Evelynn every game out of 138 champions. +the occasional Yi/Heca/Vlad/Xin (not "instead of" Evelynn... in addition to Evelynn).

Where are the Udyrs? The Trundles? The Ryzes? C'mon, don't tell me nobody unlocked Ryze.

We all know why this is: it is not just because everyone has at least one of them (cough haven't seen a single Ryze yet cough), but mostly because of rerolls and dodges. It is as if people were playing regular URF, and you are guarenteed to go against at least one of the URF meta champions.

But if it is so, then what is the point of having made it "all random"? If people can just pick the same 20 champions anyway, then why do we call it "random"? Let's face it, this is regular URF with more dodges and way more stomps.

P.S. This is a problem in ARAM too btw, and has been ignored far too long.

14 Comments

Ok sure but whyAug 16, 20172 votes

I'd like BPAM

Blind Pick All Mid

UnboundHadesAug 16, 20172 votes

ive gotten udyr and trundle but ryze and sona are disabled from urf due to being the most cancer in the game

Cloud273Aug 16, 20174 votes

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ive gotten udyr and trundle but ryze and sona are disabled from urf due to being the most cancer in the game

So Ryze and Sona are cancer but Evelynn is fine. Good to know.

AazzlanoAug 17, 20171 votes

She's playable in one non serious mode for a couple days a year. Let her actually be viable for a few days before returning to the dumpster

Cloud273Aug 17, 20173 votes

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She's playable in one non serious mode for a couple days a year. Let her actually be viable for a few days before returning to the dumpster

That's where you're wrong. She's actually not a bad champ. People are just bad with her.

AazzlanoAug 17, 20171 votes

You could be half (or way less) as good on almost any other jungler as on her and find much bigger success.

Anu3isIIAug 17, 20172 votes

It really depends on the amount of experience the jungler has. Eve mains, while they are rare, they are also some of the scariest players to face.

It is like Shaco, the champion is either weak or extremely powerful based on the player's experience.

Sure, other champions are easier to learn, but that doesn't mean they are better.

DisulfiramAug 17, 20171 votes

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ryze and sona are disabled from urf due to being the most cancer in the game

Where are the Yasuos? The Kayns? My argument still holds: we see none of the most played champions (in normal/ranked) who are considered bad in URF, even though it is supposed to be "random".

It is not "all random" urf, it is "reroll or dodge until you get the champ you wanted" urf.

UnboundHadesAug 17, 20171 votes

gotten kayn 3 times gotten yas twice before rolling him

DisulfiramAug 17, 20171 votes

Which is EXACTLY my point: you don't see them because people reroll them, or in some cases just dodge. This eskews randomness, and the result is the same as if we had regular URF: people choose their champions amongst the 20 or so best for URF, the only difference being that we see more dodges in ARURF than in URF.

DJMason88Aug 17, 20171 votes

Are you really complaining about re-rolls....

SEKAIAug 17, 20171 votes

Outside of the Syndras that is somehow there every single game, my ARURF experience has been pretty random as promised so far really.

Tails9016Aug 17, 20171 votes

Over 60 games or so, I've only seen 4 or 5 Syndra's... iirc they all got shit on

DJMason88Aug 17, 20171 votes

Everybody seems to have different champions that keep appearing, so it is pretty random. I've never seen a lot of the champs one person is complaining about getting all the time, while they have never seen a champ that i get all the time.