Can you seriously develop an algorithm to not fuck me over just in champ select?
I don't wanna sit and play a game for 10--22 minutes to lose because we are melee or have an Ashe meanwhile the enemy has Vel'Koz, Jayce, fucking annoying Teemo, Xerath, etc.
It get's annoying and I don't have time to play the Rift every single day of my life, but I would also like a SLIM chance of winning instead of wasting my fucking time every time.
Thanks for ignoring this. Peace.
R0XTAR12 votesIt's not random when they get all range and you literally sit through up to 20 minutes of hell because one moron doesn't wanna ff
Quiet Dude6 votesSo roll the dice better
BlackJoe10028 votes[{quoted}](name=Quiet Dude,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cvQm91XH,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-09-10T20:44:45.019+0000)
So roll the dice better
Here's 500 dollars. Play only slots at the casino. If you lose, play better.
Quiet Dude5 votesNow you get it. The mode is about random champions you get. You get 2 rerolls. Make it work or lose.
If you dont like it, go play hearthstone or something
BlackJoe1008 votes[{quoted}](name=Quiet Dude,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cvQm91XH,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2018-09-10T20:46:40.055+0000)
Now you get it
You make Trump look smart.
Quiet Dude4 votes“Waaah my team cant make random champions win, please rito make it easier”
BlackJoe1008 votes[{quoted}](name=Quiet Dude,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cvQm91XH,comment-id=000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-09-10T20:50:11.574+0000)
“Waaah my team cant make random champions win, please rito make it easier”
Go step on some Legos, might make it easier to swallow that salty water.
Quiet Dude1 votesah yes, im the baddie complaining about aram, you deduced roxtar and I are one and the same
You make trump look smart
Moon Mom4 votesidk why people are downvoting you. It's the literal truth. Aram is a random roll of the dice, not perfect teams for you to fight vs. Stomps happen.
Quiet Dude3 votesIt's cause they want to hear echoes
Anu3isII2 votes[{quoted}](name=Quiet Dude,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cvQm91XH,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2018-09-10T20:46:40.055+0000)
If you dont like it, go play hearthstone or something
Hearthstone is arguably worse than rolling a dice.
Śhunpo2 votesHearthstone is like rolling 100 32 side dies all at the same time in the hopes that you get a 6 on all of them. And then each time you roll the die Blizzard comes in and asks you to dump your life savings into rolling more die.
Quiet Dude1 votesKind of like ARAM or something
Quiet Dude2 votesI was hoping someone would get the joke. Thank you!
Anu3isII1 votesSometimes I don't know why I torment myself with that game...
Anyway, I agree with your point. I actually have very few moments where I feel like my team loses from the start and one or two rerolls generally fix that. The only real problem is the existence of ARAM-only accounts, which removes the fun part of this mode: randomness...
Somber Rites2 votesHere's 500 dollars. Play only slots at the casino. If you lose, play better.
r/woosh
EllaEnchanted 3 votesHashtag Relatable
Wimbledofy3 votesIt's not random when they get all range and you literally sit through up to 20 minutes of hell because one moron doesn't wanna ff
That's exactly what random is. You don't want random.
Saianna1 votesit is random. You can scream, cry, whine, stomp your little feet. It will still be random. Just cause you get shit-brain for a teammate(s), doesn't mean the whole **ARAM ** should be changed so your game would be more FAIR. It's not called FARAM or whatever.
The ONLY thing that cripples ARAM are ARAM-accounts abusing its poorly implemented randomness. And there i'd agree, cause whenever you see ranged/poke-stacked teamcomps you know those fuckers did use their ARAM only accounts with best ARAM picks.
That is all.
Beatrice falls9 voteshttps://i.gyazo.com/f3501baee3542847cd559fb8655054ed.png
Aren't you having fun when 80% of your games are like this ? :))))))))
YoRHa 2B3 votesYou mean that Rakan isn't with Xayah or what?
PurpleKingCrazy2 votesDark Harvest Karthus. Something is a little screwed up here in the game mode.
Jeddite7 votesEverything single thread like this has replies from the ARAM Bronze League™ who think "OMG ARAM ACCOUNTS" exists (but none can agree on precisely what is and is not an "ARAM ONLY ACCOUNT).
These same 85-IQ simpletons think making all champions available in ARAM means Udyr will be played more and Lux will be played less. Wrong. People will still re-roll (or dodge) if they get Udyr. People will not re-roll (or dodge) if they get Lux.
How to tell the internet that you don't understand statistics: suggest unlocking all champions in ARAM will make you lose/suck less (it wont).
Quiet Dude6 votesAll random all mid
K3ars3n2 votes[{quoted}](name=Quiet Dude,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cvQm91XH,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-09-10T20:42:41.787+0000)
All random all mid
Which would be just fine if all the random toons they give you the chance to get are viable ... ... Hint: They aren't at all balanced
Quiet Dude1 votesGood news, they are releasing All Champion Select All Mid
Hethalean6 votesI recommend Nexus Blitz. It is insanely fun. Short (pretty much hard capped to end at 19 minutes guaranteed), and you don't have any of the 'random' issues that ARAM has especially with ARAM Only accounts messing it up entirely.
R0XTAR3 votesI recommend Nexus Blitz. It is insanely fun. Short (pretty much hard capped to end at 19 minutes guaranteed), and you don't have any of the 'random' issues that ARAM has especially with ARAM Only accounts messing it up entirely.
IDK at the moment.. insanely laggy and my new laptop can't handle the FPS drops. Hurts my eyes lol
Śhunpo1 votesAnnnnd the tryhards have infected Nexus Blitz as well making it a tank and mage cesspool of cancer.
Hethalean1 votesAnnnnd the tryhards have infected Nexus Blitz as well making it a tank and mage cesspool of cancer.
Yeah, people will always want to win, and find the best way to win. Pretty sure the people who say "Don't do non meta shit because decrease in win rate!" that have gone from Ranked, to Normals, to ARAM, will also show up in Nexus Blitz. That's why I ignore it all the way into ranked since it's never about the queue. They just want to feel safe in their chances to win with how other people play. :)
SammyDayspring6 votesDon't play ARAM if you can't handle losing badly.
Making the teams "fair" would defeat the purpose. The only ways I can see preventing these types of situation is to either give people more rerolls or to allow ffs with fewer votes.
SanKakU5 voteshttps://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2862600794/125745?tab=overview
4 melee versus 1 melee. Come on dude, don't make excuses and just learn to play better.
Arcanine194 votesTheres 2 things riot should REALLY implement on Aram: -MAKE ALL CHAMPIONS AVAILABLE, I fking hate playing against aram accounts who always have good picks while we sit playing udyr or pre-rework eve for example. And dont get me started with riot tournaments on ARAM, theres a lot of premade teams who consist of smurfs with aram accounts, its disgusting. -MAKE ARAM BANS A THING, I know it is supposed to be random but I hate some champions on the mode that I prefer to never see on the map such as sona
Triggered Aram only players incoming in 3,2,1
BachelorWho2 votesUdyr is solid in ARAM against certain comps. He has a 3 second spammable shield, and a spammable stun. He won’t carry (usually) but can be very helpful in a team.
And in general I see tank comps win that game more often than not. Snowball is overpowered on some champs that aren’t meant to have gap closes. It’s just about not feeding too much too early.
Arcanine191 votesUdyr is solid in ARAM against certain comps. He has a 3 second spammable shield, and a spammable stun. He won’t carry (usually) but can be very helpful in a team.
And in general I see tank comps win that game more often than not. Snowball is overpowered on some champs that aren’t meant to have gap closes. It’s just about not feeding too much too early.
Easier said than done, for me its easy not too feed, but tell that to the rest of the team, no matter how much you play, you will always find some guys that dont know the basics of the game and feed early when the comp is late game
Random Elephant1 votesRight? Don't you just hate it when you go play your daily ARAM, and suddenly in the enemy team, there's two guys "that dont know the basics of the game and feed early when the comp is late game"? Terrible experience. Or are you trying to say this happens to you and you only?
Arcanine191 votes[{quoted}](name=Random Elephant,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cvQm91XH,comment-id=0005000000000000,timestamp=2018-09-12T12:53:01.687+0000)
Right? Don't you just hate it when you go play your daily ARAM, and suddenly in the enemy team, there's two guys "that dont know the basics of the game and feed early when the comp is late game"? Terrible experience. Or are you trying to say this happens to you and you only?
It doesnt happen only to me , but of course its gonna only leave me mad if theyre on my team (mad=/= flaming)
Nea1044 votesAram accounts have a part in that. So sad nothing has been done about it.
Also, they can't get a proper matchmaking for SR, I think they really can't for a quasi-random mode :P
Infernape2 votesWe do have the free rotation being extended for ARAM which alleviates that slightly. But, ARAM accounts are unfortunately still a thing.
It wouldn't be so bad if Riot did ARAM specific balancing outside of fringe cases like Ornn's passive, so that champs like Fiddle, Sona and Lux can get toned down there and not be such a pain.
I hope Nexus Blitz becomes permanent so I can say sayonara to ARAM for good. It's tilting to see certain champs every other game or so (looking at you Veigar, Ziggs, and Xerath) or to see Sona basically ignoring the Howling Abyss' allied healing debuff.
Radio Daddy2 votesI easily lost many games when we had range advantage and have won many games when the enemy team was stacked. Teemo can be countered easily by one item, just don't be cheap. Can a full poke ap team win against Vlad, Mundo, Naut and other various tanks, melees already have an op engage summoner spell, just learn to play better and somehow make your random team work. Aram is more than just melee vs ranged, and if you don't like rng don't play.
Leetri2 votesI doubt Riot made a line in the code to ruin the game for you specifically. ARAM is about rerolling effectively and getting lucky. Everyone gets a random champion, but it seems less random because no one is gonna keep Skarner or Udyr if they got a reroll. Only way for it to appear more random would be to completely remove rerolls, which isn't a good idea. If every champion has exactly the same chance to appear there'd still be more Sonas or Luxes because people don't reroll those champions. And if you remove rerolls you'd still get more Sonas or Luxes because people would just instead dodge the games they get Skarner.
R0XTAR1 votesYou're both squirrels fighting over the same nut.
stone the blacks1 votesjust kinda get 
and trap people in the game for an hour or so
Krytoric1 votesthat would completely defeat the purpose of aram lmao.
all RANDOM all mid
Jaspers1 votesI think something is up with the 'Random' recently. I get a higher number of free rotation champs than champs I own. I don't get it. It's not like 1 in every 10, it's like 1 out of 2, sometimes I even roll a free rotation to a free rotation.
NekoniClaws1 votesSometimes it can be pretty tilting, but if you're not already in a bad mood, it helps to look at the melee > ranged comps as hard mode- it doesn't always has to be misery, or a loss. As soon as you look at it as a challenge it's much less tilt inducing.
EvLoFo1 votesI agree that a lot of ARAM games feel rigged. Because of that, I've developed 10 commandments for playing ARAM that have helped me keep my win rate around 50%:
If your team comp looks like trash, save your rrs for another game. A lucky rr can heal the sick, but it can't raise the dead.
If nobody on your team rolls Sona, Lux, Ziggs, Maokai, or a similar OP champ, consider dodging. I'm totally serious. If you don't have any of them, the odds are that the enemy team has at least one of them.
If you don't have at least one mage with cc, decent range, and high damage, consider dodging.
If you don't have at least one tank, consider dodging. A corollary to this rule is that if anyone on your team is stupid enough to grab a tank and immediately declare his or her intent to go full AP or AD, consider dodging.
If you don't have a juggernaut like Dr. Mundo or Illaoi on your team, consider dodging.
If anybody on your team picks a high-skill cap champions such as Ryze, Bard, Azir, or Akali, consider dodging. Your teammate probably doesn't have enough practice on the champ to pull their weight.
If multiple teammates select jungle champs, consider dodging. Most jungle champs underperform without a jungle and a jungle item. They also underperform because they're primarily balanced around an early game on SR where they exploit numbers advantages by ganking. You don't get that on howling abyss.
If two or more teammates select ADC champs, consider dodging. If the enemy team comp is half decent, you will be aced several times because you are too squishy.
If your team skews toward AD or AP for damage output, consider dodging. If it's too lopsided, the enemy team will beat you by stacking armor or MR.
Don't be selfish. If your team comp needs something like Taric or Nami, be willing to grab the champ off the bench, even if the champ isn't the most fun champ available. If too many teammates are opting into a weak team comp because they want their fun champ, consider dodging.
If I refused to break any of my rules, I would probably never play another ARAM game. But when I see more of my rules broken, I become more willing to do my team a solid and eat the dodge penalty.
Alzon1 votesI have six rules for ARAM:
Fill any role needed in the team comp.
Required mix of early and scaling champs.
Required mix of ranged and melee.
Front liners take Conqueror, or Grasp in a few cases due to being in combat literally 90% of the time when not dead or running back.
Sivir with an ounce of peel is auto-win.
If all champions are owned, never sit with 2 rerolls. With the refilled pool, there’s nothing to lose.
EvLoFo1 votesSolid rules. I can see how all of them contribute to a win. I own a little over half the champs right now, so I'm a little more stingy with my rrs. I'll often go into practice tool when I'm serving my ARAM dodge time. You can get rr points for winning games there.
If there's any peel, Jhin, Kog, and MF are also auto wins. Their ults are all nuts in a single lane. That and the fact that Jhin and MF have ridiculous MS.
