"We nerfed Veigar's ultimtate because he was too good at bursting people"

For some reason they really danced around the real reason which was obviously since they increased his potential AP gain from Q, they had to tone down R to prevent his burst from getting out of control too early in the game.

It's not that they wanted to get rid of his ability to delete people. They were just afraid that the Q change would make his burst start snowballing too early in the game.

riot only cares about lee sin big lcs play(press r) omg wp nice kick

Of all the champions that were primary customers of the late Deathfire Grasp, none were more iconic than the Tiny Master of Evil himself. While we recognized and intended to preserve Veigar's role as a 100-to-0 burst mage, flatly increasing the power of a champion with such a powerful combination of crowd control and single-target damage didn't feel like the humane option (for everyone except Veigar).

Freeing up Baleful Strike to cover more range and doubly enable his AP-stacking minigame was a natural change to Veigar's kit and made his laning better. We quickly learned, however, that a strictly better Veigar left opponents with less and less options, especially with the immense power that is Event Horizon. While old Veigar needed to rely on Event Horizon's immediate stun to zone out potential threats, keeping its current iteration meant we either needed to reduce Veigar's damage (but you can't reduce a 100-0 burst mage to 100-20) or tackle his outright reliability. Ultimately we went with the latter.

The bottom line is this - characters with inflexible kits are often balanced on a knife's edge, and the slightest change to a range or damage value can be the difference between unplayable or overbearing (Hi Ryze!). While Veigar's reliability when it comes to "blowing fools up" has decreased, the added laning flexibility and higher late-game scaling should help make Veigar more than a one-trick pony. He has to work harder for his one-shots, but has the tools to earn them in a way that feels fair...ish for his opponents.

When did they say that? In the last patch 5.13 they just wanted his ult to get bigger based on AP. :I

"What? Just walking by..."

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Isn't that... uhh.. you know..

his whole identity?

Counter play you know. Riot wants that. Therefore, changes.

this is so that you can nearly kill them and then wait for cooldowns while enemy shiv just pentas ur whole team lol

There is a difference between burst, and one shotting a person with an ultimate.

Veigar's previous ultimate was the latter. Hell, it still IS the latter, against mages.