So Ryze is at a 37% winrate

Whatever the rework is, I'm sure that it'll include his point and click snare.

Some day they'll realize it trivializes the fact he has skillshots.

Everyone should call him Rywork from now on.

I contributed xd

I am at 28% win rate with him.

His current main problem is he either a) takes too long to set up and/or b) way too predictable in his setup so he never gets to deal any damage. To get a combo off you need to be REAL fucking sneaky. Either that or just (Q)WEQ and hope they stay long enough for you to finish them with 3 or 4 spell rotations.

Make the root a skillshot and they wouldn't have this problem.

Anybody else miss his bouncy ball spell? :(

You just pretty much copy and pasted a front page reddit thread lol

https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/60969r/37_winrate_ryze_whos_excited_for_the_5th_rework/

They have to nerf him out of LCS viability and then wait 6 months for his win rate to drop to 25% before considering it first.

idc about this champ he is just fckn cancer in every way if they buff him he will just be broken again he needs another rework (what a surpryze)

Ryze skills will increase their range the more he hits them, if his shield is broken he will regain X% max hp scaling with mana too, teleporting more than 1 will grant Ryze and his allies invulnerability for 1 second.

Meddler:we didnt want to waste one of faker's bans so we ruined the champion for 99.99% of the playerbase.

when faker got bored of this version

I think he is gonna get a mini-rework to make his W an actual SKILL SHOT! It's the only thing that has been kept on him unchanged every rework and he always ends up with a "Root to Insta Kill" combo. Yeah, how about not that. Make it like a shorter range, but faster travel time Lux Q. That way you can dodge it and it doesn't pierce through targets. As compensation, buff his R range (maybe give it a third rank for 4500 range?) and perhaps buff his Q damage slightly.

what the hell...this can't be right. Is the data messed up or something?

I'm looking at the stats right now and my brain is refusing to believe it

I don't think Nidalee was even that low at her worst

Ryze has not reached as high as 49% since patch 5.8. 37% isn't all that bad if you look at it that way!

Every time that Ryze tries to leave the hotel for dumpstered champs...

He always comes back. But every time he comes back a friend is missing as they have gotten their reworks and left for good.

They really gutted him for regular players.

u may not be very good at him. when ever im against him, he goes god-mode on me.

His rework is another disaster. Honestly they should just leave him in the dumpster for now.

There are so many more champions deserving of updates and touch ups yet they keep coming back to Ryze, and everytime they do he stays P/B at high elo/LCS and dumpster tier everywhere else.

Heck even Azir is easier to balance. He's fine right now.

He needs a complete overhaul imo. As other comments have suggested that his identity of a dual scaling mage with low cooldowns and a point and click snare, make him practically impossible to balance. And that his W being point and click really makes his "skill"shots easy to hit. It's not a rewarding feeling 100-0ing someone just because I looked at them funny.

To be honest the reason why its mostly 37% is due to today's Meta of "Tank = Damage" and "Retarded Galio" becoming a massive relevance, Ryze is still vaibile but he does require some buffs along the patches. His wave clear and AIDs Combo Paths work so well together against things like Hiemer if you play it well enough, WELL ENOUGH I SAID. Buffs could be used and he can still be viable... Just praise the sun and hope on the Goat God of Crits.

It's funny because his winrate is so low but he's also insane when it comes to damage so if they give him the smallest fucking buff he'll shoot up 10 winrate and then be pick/ban in one patch. There is nothing riot can do with this ryze to make him balanced and useful.

Ryze struggling to keep up with the meta? Lets insanely buff lux

trollface

For some reason they made this Ryze the hardest version ever so it was kinda hard from the beginning to not see this coming lol~

Can't really go the other way though because he already looked and felt like BS?

He's balanced. He relies on positioning more than any other version of him. It's about time he's not retardedly broken.

I'm new to Ryze, and I've analyzed my previous games to determine my personal winrate with him to be 25%. I've yet to encounter as single enemy I don't feed in lane. I've found he can't outduel or outplay anyone, he just is to close range without enough sustained damage. (Try laning against Teemo.) He can't take turrets quickly at all. If you don't believe me, bring him into a bot game. I pull almost no weight in team fights because I'm close range, and don't deal enough damage to account for the low range and squishiness. His ult, while good for the theoretical awesome maneuver, is useless for anything but flanking without coordination, and even with voicechat, is still situational. I go on tilt every time I play Ryze. I think he seriously needs a another look at.

What about, give sight on his Q. Maybe with some "utility" he could get balanced, since his R does not grant any utility...

This is a case where he works in coordinated games but is awful in solo

I hate Ryze. How to make a champion complicated and shitty because you first need to setup a telegraphed trade which is already fucked because minions are always there to block your Q. You'll need to move better than any of the other champions of the same class, and your skillshot game must be on point. It doesn't seem to matter what you build, you'll always get fucking mauled in the early game and your lategame damage is great if you ever live longer than 3 seconds.