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A Way to Balance Sterak's Gage for Juggernauts, Bruisers and Marksmen

MadDoughnutz·2/15/2016, 2:56:20 PM·163 votes·5,973 views

With how item 3053 is being picked up by adc's in LCS because of how cheap and the immediate survivability it gives to them, it is true a change is warranted for the item. However, nerfing the Hp on the item like what's on the pbe isn't the right thing to do imo.

Instead, Riot should make it so the shield scales UP to what it is currently on live. Make it like item 3034 , except in reverse. It starts off at 10% max health shield, and for every 100 Bonus HP the wearer has, add 1% to the shield when it procs(So just by buying Sterakk's, you start off with 15% Max health shield). This scales up to the cap of 30% Max health shield the item has now(Or maybe 35%, if the -100 HP nerf for the item stays). The numbers and ratios can be adjusted very easily for balance, too.

This is a good change because A: It doesn't really nerf the item for juggernauts or bruisers at all because their natural build path stacks HP, unless they go full AD or purchase the item as a first buy and B: Marksmen are much less inclined to get it, because they don't get a full 30% shield unless they invest in more HP from other items, a less then stellar stat for them.

I think this change would fix the issue with item 3053 right now. Thoughts?

81 Comments

Foucz2/15/2016, 5:29:49 PM45 votes

Sterak's Gage is the only anti-burst iteam that actually works thats the problem

Spoofghoul2/15/2016, 5:33:19 PM12 votes

this is brilliant it would make the item just as good as it is now for the champions the item was designed for yet making ti weakor for those who aren't really supposed to use it.

AquariusGine2/15/2016, 5:21:03 PM11 votes

What a great idea.. Riot nerfing flat HP because marksmen are abusing seems like such an uncreative solution.. [zombie-brand-facepalm]

Honestly.. this balance team ...

Cherysse2/15/2016, 3:27:41 PM7 votes

It is a good way to balance the Item, and yet it will benefit my build with Quinn xD item 3053item 1412 item 3078 item 3071 item 3111 and item 3742

Jamatrix6662/16/2016, 12:57:54 AM5 votes

I know Riot rarely reverts item changes showed on PBE, but for the sake of the game's balance and champion abuse, I have to admit this is an excellent idea. Like the original post says, the exact numbers could be tweaked by Riot according to what they feel right, keeping the current nerf (-100 HP) or not.

You guys should really upvote the original post; I would love this idea to get a Rioter's attention and who knows, hopefully find its way to Live servers.

Fat Bastard GOD2/15/2016, 6:47:16 PM5 votes

I hope Riot considers people's (including yours) ideas about changing Sterak's. Making it scale is a pretty good idea, but I saw another thread saying Sterak's passive can only be used whenever you have 3k HP.

I hope they don't nerf it's HP.

DarkRitual2/15/2016, 10:37:50 PM4 votes

Have it scale off bonus health instead of max health

48983507DEL12/15/2016, 7:47:15 PM3 votes

Okay really they just need to make it "Melee Only." Problem completely solved. There is no balance in a ranged champion having this item, so why not just prevent them from buying it completely?

WarlockLaw2/15/2016, 8:04:52 PM3 votes

What if instead the shield scales off bonus health and had a tad higher scaling. Say 40% bonus health. Adcs won't have the health to make that relevant as that starts to hurt their builds once you dedicate two items to survivability over damage.

Andrionar2/15/2016, 3:16:07 PM2 votes

I don't see any isgnificant changes to Sterak's Gage on PBE. Maybe Riot want this item to be used for assasins eather? If not, this is probably the most optional change they could make, also, they should revert 100 HP nerf.

AHarmlessTaco2/15/2016, 7:36:40 PM2 votes

Solid suggestion IMO.

Frius2/15/2016, 7:58:11 PM2 votes

graves.kalista .quinn be like rush this item, semitank item

Erockandroll2/15/2016, 8:05:26 PM2 votes

I don't think hard wiring the item to Juggernauts is the answer. considering it would limit build options for tankier ranged champions, or hybrid champions. (Gnar, maybe Urgot)

As much as the HP reduction is Objectively speaking, a complete nerf. I would Argue that it further stat binds the item to Tanky Juggernauts. The size of the shield scales with Max health. while the item gives you 500 health. So the item scales with itself. All alone, the item would give a 500*.3= 150 hp shield. where the reduction of 400 would give them only a 120HP shield, on top of having 100 less HP.

Most notable, it becomes less effective stand alone, while only marginally touching the power a high health Juggernaut may have. It becomes less effective, unless you buy more health. This in mind, if Juggernaut are too far harmed by this change, they could adjust the %HP ratios to compensate. (Like say to 35% of max health)

Dicerson2/15/2016, 9:22:28 PM2 votes

This..

this is actually an amazing idea.

GenghisEmo2/15/2016, 9:31:52 PM2 votes

Riot hire him/her for your balance team XD

But sounds like a pretty good idea.

alfavhunter2/15/2016, 10:55:25 PM2 votes

Better idea

Make the shield scale off bonus HP

Example after taking X-Y (based on level) damage you receive a shield for 50% your bonus HP (no longer total HP so the % went up by 66%) for 5 seconds, now it gives near nothing for ADC and bruisers still love it

Nekusen2/16/2016, 2:48:46 AM2 votes

Make is scale out of BONUS health or make it melee only.

notmebuthim2/17/2016, 5:42:51 AM1 votes

or just make it more expensive.