if imm correct riot started messing with the jungle because it had too much of an impact (they could set up their game and usualy they were'nt limited in any way)
so riot tried to hit this by making it more painfull to clear the entire jungle so they had to chose betwen ganking and clearing
question for this debate is do you find it a correct way of handling things, do you think there was a better way ?
ComeOnAndSlamJam2 votesThe jungle was made harder, because there were a small number of top tier jungler (Lee, Vi, J4) who were OP in it. These offenders of balance also happen to be beloved LC$ picks, know for making flashy plays. Riot decided that it would rather ruin the jungle for everyone in an attempt at balance, than just nerf the OP junglers who were the problem to begin with.
I strongly disagree with this approach. If you're going to make the jungle harder, you'd better have compensation buffs in store for the junglers you hosed.
Drunk Rummate1 votestheir approach to design this season has been around 'choice' both in a compositional sense as well as a strategic sense. the jungle changes were intially targeted at increasing the available champion pool so that players could create more diverse compositions.
ex: they wanted to increase value in counterjungling, so they added poaching smite in the hopes that it would increase the value of nunu/shaco/evelynn type picks.
unfortunately a lot of that seemed to backfire since they made the jungle so difficult to clear, but they had to make the jungle difficult and unrewarding to clear in order to discourage early game poaching from teammates to get an advantage in lane.
its tricky to balance, so i cant fault them for the problems im seeing right now. currently i think the jungle is healthier now than its been in awhile though. i definitely see improvements.
Dinitrophenol1 votesthey made the jungle stronger which hurt my beloved khazix, and then they nerf my beloved khazix about 215 times last 2-3 months.
i would love it, if they lowered khazix W and buff his E's dmg (mainly to help jungle clear early game) and i would really enjoy it, if they revert that change that did not allow him to W while airborne, especially since they nerf'd his dmg reduction or took it away i mean.
i wouldnt even mind it if they nerf'd his Q dmg and buff'd his W and make him a more poke jungler, which is what he currently is until the enemy team is at 30% hp.
