The Nerf to Ranged Devourer Users Wasn't To Make Them Less Powerful

Prospector Pete·Oct 17, 2015·5 votes·516 views

It was to remove them from the game completely.

36 Comments

Rustling BushOct 17, 20158 votes

good riddance

EedatOct 17, 20153 votes

You've never played against the horror that is Sated Vayne obviously

LadyRenlyOct 17, 20153 votes

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You've never played against the horror that is Sated obviously

sated vayne wasn't anything more special than yi, xin, jax etc. she was still an adc, meaning she was invade city

EedatOct 17, 20154 votes

you notice a trend here?

yi, xin, jax etc.

All melee. Its power wasn't supposed to be used safely from the back line

DreadlocksOct 17, 20152 votes

Yeah its suppose to be used in the front line between 5 people as you get blasted by the item 3710 item 3153 combo and insane healing all the while being knocked up into the air after 2 insanely fast auto attacks which lower his CD over and over again. XinZhao

EedatOct 17, 20154 votes

I don't think you understand how XinZhao works. He only gets 3 autos that lower his cooldowns, not infinite

DreadlocksOct 17, 20152 votes

yeah and he only needs 2.

EedatOct 17, 20154 votes

You're missing the point. He only gets 3 autos period to reduce cooldowns. It's not "all auto's within 3 seconds"

DreadlocksOct 17, 20152 votes

Thats fine, it doesnt make him any less bullshit with sated devourer.

EedatOct 17, 20153 votes

Xin is absolutely fine with Sated devourer. To get his procs he needs to actually go in with no means of getting out. Vayne on the other hand can remain safe while dodging everything with a low cooldown tumble/stealth in the backline. Add this to the fact that Vayne's 2-hit Silver Bolt proc is much stronger than Xin getting 2-hit sustain procs

DreadlocksOct 17, 20152 votes

One problem with your comparison... Vayne isn't a viable jungler.

EedatOct 17, 20153 votes

Why because its not meta? Then what do you care at all then? Which ranged meta jungler was "removed from the game" from this nerf then? Since you are refering to a ranged sated jungler you are obviously complaining about Vayne, TF, or Kayle. Vayne and TF could be called "unviable junglers" too. BTW Sated devourer was waaaaaaaayyyyy stronger on Kayle than Xin.

DreadlocksOct 17, 20152 votes

because any decent jungler would counter jungle and invade the shit out of her and rend her absolutely useless.

NemeBroOct 17, 20151 votes

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because any decent jungler would counter jungle and invade the shit out of her and rend her absolutely useless.

Did you know that the jungle has a lot of walls?

DreadlocksOct 17, 20151 votes

No i didn't thank you for that information. I think? Lol... Maybe devourer Vayne was viable at your rank.. And i'll respect your opinion from that stand point. But just know, its not going to work at a higher level of play, let alone competitive.

EedatOct 17, 20151 votes

Maybe devourer Vayne was viable at your rank

is Gold 5 with 0 LP

How are you going to talk down to silver when you havent even played your first game in Gold? Forreal dude?

EedatOct 17, 20152 votes

Ok then what is the entire point of this thread? Which ranged jungler got removed from the game from these changes huh? Or are you complaining just to complain?

DreadlocksOct 18, 20151 votes

Kayle?...derp

DreadlocksOct 18, 20151 votes

Kayle?...derp

EedatOct 18, 20151 votes

OH MAN! ONE JUNGLER!

MiraweaveOct 17, 20151 votes

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you notice a trend here?

All melee. Its power wasn't supposed to be used safely from the back line

Yes, sated Vayne wasn't actually particularly good. But what it enabled wasn't something Riot wanted to have. There are a bunch of things like that (Poppy, for example).

PDE5 InhibitorsOct 17, 20152 votes

Yeah, melee champs are the ones that abuse it, but they nerf ranged.

MiraweaveOct 17, 20153 votes

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Yeah, melee champs are the ones that abuse it, but they nerf ranged.

You act like Kayle wasn't full on absurd.

PDE5 InhibitorsOct 17, 20151 votes

There are much more absurd melee ones doe

Count ZubatOct 17, 20152 votes

Tbh, there weren't too many sated ranged junglers. Only Kayle was played regularly, other than that there were some picks played by little minority like TF. Riot just decided to hit two birds with one stone - nerfing both Kayle and Kindred, cause they knew Kindred would be broken with pre-nerf sated.

GigahappytownOct 17, 20151 votes

warrior is way better now tbh gives you a big power spike and you can easily get more kills early and more stacks

something devouer isn't capable of.

RalanrOct 17, 20151 votes

And yet everyone rejoices. Except for AS junglers who abused it to no end.

PartholonianOct 17, 20151 votes

I heard it was because their internal testing showed that it was insanely broken on Kindred . Like, beyond 4.20 Warwick levels of broken.

They're still trying to decide what, if anything, to do about Kayle as a result. Honestly they could probably just revert her, ISTM she was ok in solo lanes before S5, but they might also want to look at a bigger set of changes aimed at bringing back support viability and make her a potential mage/support flex pick like Annie Lux Lulu Morgana Karma Zyra . And that could be something we won't see until preseason or later.

CrossetteOct 17, 20151 votes

Yet Kindred is still retardedly powerful in most aspects.

Fuck that mobility combined with damage and AOE Tryndamere ult.

IcyPepperOct 18, 20151 votes

At least everyone, including the enemy team, can use the ult. :V It's difficult, but possible.

CrossetteOct 18, 20151 votes

Yes, but it turns into an elongated teamfight unless you can force them out of it. I would call it a shitty equalizer making the team with the most saved burst the automatic winrar.