futures market on enchanter supports

JarodDempsey··3 votes·581 views

someone asked me today why i took futures market (i always take futures market on my two main enchanter supports) and it took me a bit to answer. I take fm because rushing items like idol and crucible are usually super important to my lane viability. The person reminded me that it costs me money each time i use it but after some consideration I still decided that fm is a solid choice.

FM reduces the initial purchase gold required by: (approximate fm values vs time are factored in) idol: 22% idol + boots: 17% crucible (assuming idol also incurred a 50g fee): 8%

obviously idol doesnt reduce the upfront cost of crucible much but from my experience it often allows me to save a back or time my back much more conveniently and in the current state where supp gold item generation was nerfed by about 20% that matters now more than ever.

What do you other support mains think about fm? use it or lose it or somewhere inbetween?

9 Comments

ViciousSummoner1 votes

The only times you'd never take FM would be if you're playing Aftershock. Taking Triumph + Legend Tanicty is just too good to pass up on when using Aftershock. FM is just super good at snowballing you as a supp because it pretty much makes up for not being able to get gold from csing. If you're behind FM puts you on even grounds with the enemy supp, and if you're ahead you're very ahead.

CinnaBon Kittenz1 votes

FM is nice, but if you go into debt and leave base 6 times you will have gained nothing other then the rush for the item as the 6 fees would add up to 300gold and then there is no less the issue of ppl going into debt more then 6 times and then this becomes bad money wise as after the 6th debt fee you begin to lose more money then you will get in a 30+ minute game.

EDIT: If you really want gold, just get boots and biscuits and klepto then sell everything you get from those runes and spend all profits on the items you wish to rush and then you dont need to be hindered by a debt limit.

JarodDempsey1 votes

that seems to be the prevailing argument against fm though the counter that i most often see talks about the value of being able to rush as a support. Also from personal experience playing long ranged enchanters i probably only go to shop 4-6 times in an average game with like only 80% of times using fm. In any case the long term additional cost seems to be more than offset by the earlier powerspikes provided by quickly securing an item such as crucible which can easily turn a fight just by using the active, not to forget the 20% buff to heal/shield.

CinnaBon Kittenz1 votes

You sir pose a very good argument, I see the reasoning, tbh when i do the runes for utility supports i go aery with resolve secondary to get the healing and shielding buff and font of life for a not so much heal when ppl attack the target i chose which is their target. I do understand FM more now so maybe deep down you know whats good for you and maybe thats all that matters :3

Done251 votes

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FM is nice, but if you go into debt and leave base 6 times you will have gained nothing other then the rush for the item as the 6 fees would add up to 300gold and then there is no less the issue of ppl going into debt more then 6 times and then this becomes bad money wise as after the 6th debt fee you begin to lose more money then you will get in a 30+ minute game.

Maybe don't spam it like a lunatic then? You should really only need to use it 2~3 times in a game at most.

SwiftKitten881 votes

i like it a LOT on Lux along with kelpto becuase of how well it synergizes with my passive

i also buy VERY early item 3070 (right after item 3098 and the faster i can grab it the better

it also helps with rushing item 3504 after said tear and get you to your mid game power spike much faster

especially with extra gold from kelpto

BALDG1VEN BOOMER1 votes

I usually dump FM into control wards since I tend to buy a lot.

Done251 votes

FM is amazing. It can help you finish that barely out of reach item, or let you rush a quick gold gen upgrade if you have to B early. Even if you only need to borrow 50 gold you can just add a 75 gold contol ward to your tab.

NY641 votes

I think future’s market is great for supports which allows you to rush your powerful items quicker and could allow you to have an item advantage in bot lane and turn the tides. I would say it is one of the most useful runes for supports, but in my opinion zombie ward is the best for all supports because it allows your wards to last longer and you can use the enemy wards to your own advantage, it basically allows the enemy to ward for you.

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