Okay should we put a cap on brand's damage to epic monsters.
yes or no. his passive that is.
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Theorchero2 votesI'd rather we just cap his damage period.
Fuck brand.
TyrekGoldenspear2 voteshis damage is capped bro.
Its locked into combos, and he is rewarded for landing them. He is very skill shot reliant and has only one source of reliable damage besides his ult.
MunchCrunchLunch1 votesbrands W is one of the easiest skillshots to dodge
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT
His E and Ult aren't even skillshots. they are point and click.
TyrekGoldenspear2 votesW isn't even a skillshot. Its a delayed AOE explosion that is used for harras.
A good Brand will wait for you to try to CS or when you're stunned to use it. Otherwise it can be dodged.
His E has a relatively abysmal range and he has to put himself in danger to use it.
I'll give you his ult but it's an ultimate ability that fizzes out if the enemy's alone.
MunchCrunchLunch1 votesnot really. you his W to minions and ult the enemy your guarnteed at least 2 bounces if they don't flash. .
MunchCrunchLunch1 votesand you main brand anything u say is biased as hell.
TyrekGoldenspear1 votesAnd you don't main Brand and think he's OP, you are also biased.
TyrekGoldenspear1 votesnot really. you his W to minions and ult the enemy your guarnteed at least 2 bounces if they don't flash. .
Okay first of all no Brand who knows what he's doing would use his ult during leaning unless a kill is garunteed. Its wasteful compared to what he could do if he saves it for a gank bot.
Second the standard combo is to W the minions and them, E to spread and kill the minions, Q to stun and apply explosion, then back off or all in with ignite.
Third his ult is extremely underwhelming during laning when you think about it. It's 100 damage scaling .25 AP per bounce, so even if I were to hit you three times with it that's only 300-500 damage total, plus 16% max health (scaling super slow with AP).
That is nothing compared to a lot of burst mages which is why a good brand doesn't expect to 100-0 with his ult.
His ult early game is meant to spread the passive, and if you noticed his rework lowered his damage across the board and locked it into his explosion, so I have to hit all three spells to unlock my max damage potential.
MVpmack1 votes3 bounces from brand ult is doing approximately as much damage as a veigar ult. "nothing compared to burst mages"
/hmm
TyrekGoldenspear1 votesEh, Veigar's ult does missing health damage as well.
It's much more reliable burst .
MVpmack1 votesit's an execute actually, but you're correct, it technically can do as much as 4 brand bounces
TyrekGoldenspear1 votesYou're also correct, but remember that Brand's ult can bounce up to five times total, but can never hit one person more than 3 times.
Dracocrash2 votesso... half of his skills are not skillshots?
And rylies makes it increadibly easy to land skillshots.
TyrekGoldenspear1 votesTo be precise, Brand has one skill shot, two point and clicks, and a delayed AOE explosion.
And that is why Rylais is core on him. :P
BobaFlautist2 voteshttp://i.imgur.com/FjqJVVr.jpg
WHERE'S YOUR SMITE NOW?
EndlessSorcerer3 votes
I have a good 50 spears stuck into this worm and E is maxed. Bring it, matchstick.
hOrnn1 votesi have 
and
on my team with a 
ggwp
DunkinNoobs2 votesIt DOES have a cap. Perhaps now low enough of one, but it's there.
MunchCrunchLunch2 votesIt DOES have a cap. Perhaps now low enough of one, but it's there.
no there isn't. his passive does more damage than smite.
DunkinNoobs1 votesno there isn't. his passive does more damage than smite.
: Brand's abilities set his targets ablaze upon damaging them, dealing 2% of target's maximum health over 4 seconds as magic damage, stacking up to 3 times, and empowering his abilities against them. The damage against monsters is capped at 320.
JohnEric1 votesOkay, you are totally ignoring the other half of the passive.
You are correct with the first half: "Brand's abilities set his targets ablaze upon damaging them, dealing 2% their maximum health as magic damage over 4 seconds, stacking up to 3 times, and empowering his abilities against them. The damage against monsters is capped at 320."
Note that this only refers to the DoT damage (the little effect when you see your champion burning)
The next half is only capped by max health of the target:
"Blaze Debuff At 3 stacks, an area about the target is marked, which explodes after 2 seconds. All enemies struck are dealt 12 - 16 (based on level)% 「 (+ 1.5% per 100 AP) 」 their maximum health magic damage. The explosion will still trigger if the target dies to the third ability or during the delay. Brand cannot stack Blaze on enemies who have exploded in the past 4 seconds."
This debuff explosion is not capped to 320 damage. This is why jungle brand is quite effective at clearing camps and getting epics.
hOrnn1 votesdepends on health of epic and ap of brand, but its capped.
specter4241 votesno
Poorly Dressed1 votesno
The Deckowner1 votesI'd just remove all %hp dmg from the game
Sariat12 votesWhy not just go and remove damage from the game while you're at it?
The Deckowner1 voteswhy not kappa
Sariat11 votesWell, it would certainly make every champ a lot more balanced. Every champion would have the same possibility to impact the game, and they would still keep their unique looks and visuals. When you think about it, that's about as perfect balance as you can get.
Sniper 01 votes%hp damage generally is a check to tanks so.... I'd rather it not be removed. Tanking would become rather boring with a tank buster. z.z
The Deckowner1 votespeople don't understand humor
Sniper 01 votesIn order for someone to get humor it doesn't need to look like a serious statement.
Meep Man1 votesHis passive doesn't have a monster damage cap?
MunchCrunchLunch1 votesno it doesn't. he can literally solo baron if he has a psuedo tank to absorb damage for few seconds
hOrnn1 votesit does, but its the firat half of the damage, after 3 sTACKS KABOOOM BABY PENTAKILL
Anonagon1 votesIt shouldn't be capped Its not really all that much considering the investment required (3 spells) and the built in cooldown it also provides brand a unique strength in comparison to other burst mages
Weathered1 votesI haven't noticed that this is a problem.
Calabok1 votesIf in a position where there is nothing for ult to bounce off of, Brand is basically hosed
hOrnn1 votesit has a cap, all percent health damages have caps on epic monsters...
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