The Only Champions I Ban Right Now Are The Juggernauts

Prospector Pete·Sep 12, 2015·5 votes·1,007 views

This is seriously starting to be bad for the game. First it was Sated Junglers, now it's the juggernauts.

15 Comments

Big LincolnSep 12, 20152 votes

not really

none of them are so polarizing that they warp the game around them besides maybe an early game Mordekaiser (who's supposed to win early) and all of them have pretty noticeable weaknesses

nobody wants to pick their lane counters because most of them are still out of meta but Lissandra Kennen Jayce are a few examples. high disengage, good kiting and long-range poke aren't currently in flavor but that's what they're weak to. don't pick people that play to their strengths. hell, Vayne is extremely good vs them right now and she's in every other game

DrNovaSep 12, 20153 votes

Tops bitch about ranged tops, then riot makes it so you have to play ranged against them.

Lolz

Critmaster GarenSep 12, 20152 votes

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Tops bitch about ranged tops, then riot makes it so you have to play ranged against them.

Lolz

there are plenty of melee champs that beat them.

SaltyKrackaSep 12, 20151 votes

Not right now there aren't.

Big LincolnSep 12, 20151 votes

Mordekaiser is actually a pretty good pick vs darius

Fiora Riven seem like skill matchups, Gangplank scales better than them depending on build. Chogath can definitely trade well with them as well as heal/sustain if he falls behind

SaltyKrackaSep 12, 20151 votes

Cho actually loses pretty hard against most of the OP champs right now.

Fio/GP are rightfully getting nerfed, and my opinion on Riven is entirely predictable.

Big LincolnSep 12, 20151 votes

that's generally how counters work

ranged tops counter the juggernauts, assassins/dive-fighters counter (most) ranged tops and the juggernauts stomp the divers

diversity

MatezoideSep 12, 20152 votes

Meanwhile Lux, Ahri and Vayne have higher pick and win-rates than any Juggernaut.

Meanwhile Skarner and Garen got significant nerfs.

God forbid immobile melees can actually carry for once

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Really? True damage, 3x damage, Garen ult doesn't strike you as at all op? How about infinite Darius ults with instant passive stacking when maxed on one person. Maybe the fact Mord's ult was already devastating, and buffed repeatedly, then givin access to revive something thats stronger than most champs.

Mord Ult buffed? really?

Is that why it lost 200 range on the rework? Is that why his Ghost gets half the bonus AD from pre-rework?

Dragon ghost is pathetic past 20 minutes, is an entirely "win-more" mechanic and locks Mord out of his Ultimate.

AmazingGoatSep 12, 20152 votes

Garen was open yesterday when I was first pick blue side so I picked him. I had played Garen once or twice ever over a year ago. I was against cho top, which someone on here listed as a good matchup against him. He had zero kill pressure on me in lane but I was dumb and died to a couple of ganks early. He couldn't snowball the lane on me and once I got black cleaver I could bully him. I finished 13/3/10 and completely wrecked their team in team fights. He's broken.

CardmantSep 12, 20151 votes

Its not the actual champion.... Its the items item 3742 item 3053 item 3748

disregardableSep 12, 20151 votes

In Darius's case, it's his numbers. otherwise item 3742 nerf this to up to 8% movespeed and we're good to go

Pew Pew LasersSep 12, 20153 votes

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Its not the actual champion.... Its the items

Really? True damage, 3x damage, Garen ult doesn't strike you as at all op? How about infinite Darius ults with instant passive stacking when maxed on one person. Maybe the fact Mord's ult was already devastating, and buffed repeatedly, then givin access to revive something thats stronger than most champs.

MordepoolSep 13, 20151 votes

Morde ult has historically only ever received nerfs. And that hasn't changed yet. Do the research before you talk shit

Critmaster GarenSep 12, 20151 votes

Vayne

kaykalosSep 12, 20151 votes

Because they are the first meele champions with nearly zero cc , that they can actual carry .Yes lets return to the old classic meta, 3 supports 1 apc 1 adc 'lovely' .......Meele sustained dps class!? what is that?If u want sustained dps class only adcs have 'the right' to carry games, or apcs, meele sustained dps with zero cc supposed to not exist or to carry games in meta, because autoattacks or target skills have no counterplay (imagine how less counterplay have range auttoattacks).