The 4-feeder one-way stomp meta is kind of garbage

Dope Solo·1/27/2020, 1:25:14 AM·44 votes·17,195 views

Sorry but whoever came up with this approach to matchmaking probably needs to take another look at it. The number of one-way stomps on either side is just not something that can be called 'competitive' or a 'game', or 'match'. Its kind of trash.

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kurdt9111/27/2020, 7:06:04 AM38 votes

This game for chinese people now. Riot doesn't care about others.

Juukez4201/27/2020, 11:07:58 AM21 votes

the game is made for people to sit at 50% winrate

can you do better or worse? sure

but 2 things can easily show you why this is the case 1=what is the probability that youre whole team, or everyone minus 1 or 2, can either feed or stomp everygame for like 5 games and switch back and forth based on wins or losses?

2= it works both ways, for climbing and against, was on my like 5th account testing around before i thought...well, if they are fixing your wins they must be fixing your losses.....sure enough and testable, keep losing games and tell me even when you start running it down that you dont get 4 people who cream the other team and u still win. (non duo )

honestly though, how did you think matchmaking went from 10-20min long ques for close skill games down to 1min to 5mins for these games now?

its like rolling dice, sure you could roll a number from 1-6....normal chances are like, you got one of like every number and a few copies.....league matchmaking is like u rolled a 6! 6! 6! 6! 1! 1! 1! 1! 6! 6! 1! 1!

i would argue that im bad, but what you cant argue is my point.....dont believe it? test it yourself

or believe that companys wouldnt rig games to get money from you and keeping you playing more.....ever been to the casino?

i urge you to make a new account and test it for yourself, dont take my word for it, when you get like 10 losses your teammates start turning into super men...its pretty gross

Garson2111/27/2020, 8:34:38 AM15 votes

They have now h1z1 IRL so who knows, maybe they will start balance game for other regions soon.

lamakisser1/27/2020, 1:43:57 PM9 votes

this has been the most uneven season i have played.. never have i seen so many games with rage quitters or games under 15 minutes

BALANCE THIS ALREADY

Illabethe1/27/2020, 7:41:32 PM6 votes

It's not matchmaking.

It's Jungle and support changes which both became polarized roles in every game, where they didn't used to be.

If a Support or Jungler falls behind, there's no catch up mechanic anymore. Not only can you not XP, you can't gold either.

You also can't compensate for poor teammates anymore, because your success is tied entirely to theirs as these roles now.

And then, there's the fact people among 3-4 elos bunched together in each elo right now because our placements are now a remnant of the state that went into effect when positional ranking (Season 9) was removed where baseline MMR dropped with the introduction of Iron.

Game basically just needs one person who is a smurf to have a good lane now, and the game is over, because a team can just huddle and push.

I just had a smurfing Viktor last night have 219 CS by 14 minutes, vs a Veigar who didn't even counterlane yesterday.

My team consisted of MissFortune Gangplank Zyra Veigar Taric

How do you think that worked out, a smurfing Viktor vs no spell shields, no mobility skills, and a 13 CS score for the first 10 minutes of the game (8.6 overall)? He 1v5'd, and could kill people without even needing anything more than his ult. He could flash over a wall and 1 shot 123 Magic resistance. He got to freelo turrets. No one could get even close to drake. No one could trade him or even 1v5 him, because he simply didn't need his kit to kill anyone. 1 shot, gain shield, laser someone else. R someone else.

I got bot and top ahead. His bot/top sucked. Even got early drakes. Didn't mean crap, because he was Viktor, and smurfing.

https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=MegaBadNublet

SirTauntsALot1/27/2020, 1:32:48 PM6 votes

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Sorry but whoever came up with this approach to matchmaking probably needs to take another look at it. The number of one-way stomps on either side = is just not something that can be called 'competitive' or a 'game', or 'match'. Its kind of trash.

This is true I might get 1 / 30 games which is competitive and can go either way. It's usually stomps. EIther it's we stomp enemy team, or enemy stomps us.

I believe this is related to the following reasons:

  • tanks can not soak up damage anymore. So if someone gets ahead and builds damage faster he will continue to dominate because there is nothing to slow the game down.
  • drakes are very important. They are so important that if you get one, they will help u to get a second. Blue side usually has an advantage as drakes are easier to get.
HideSide1/27/2020, 8:11:14 PM5 votes

Out of 12 games, I had feeders, afkers and incappable apes in 8 out of them and one unlucky game that was more or less my fault. Now all, you platina players, whose ultimate argument Is "So what that you get in 3 out of 10 games feeders? You can carry the rest 7 games and then you climb with 70% wr." There are no 7 carriable games...

big boi edri1/27/2020, 6:02:37 PM1 votes

I feel like its because jungle is just in such a shit state right now. Once they buff the jungle back, it should return to normal.

As it is, 1 jungle gets behind, there is no catching up. You just went from 5v5 to 4v5 in one play. It usually happens early too, so the game is over pretty quick. After that, its just hope a lane gets fed AF or wait to FF and try to farm lanes as a jungler. Jungle XP is weak, you can't power farm it to get back in the game.

TLDR: I think this meta is so lopsided because they so ridiculously fucked the jungle.

mack91121/28/2020, 5:29:17 AM1 votes

Thats not a meta

miightofdemacia1/28/2020, 10:35:30 AM1 votes

This is what I think is wrong with match making. Every game I get put with or against teammates who clearly don't belong as their skill level is way above or way below others. I wish it was a little bit more accurate and had good players face and play with other good players while bad players get matched and paired with bad players. For it to happen 7 out of 10 games is a little too much

Remus Wins2/1/2020, 1:13:56 AM1 votes

Yup, this season is uneven as fuck, every game is a stomp one way or the other.

Over side man2/11/2020, 5:04:53 PM1 votes

Oh there is dislike bots going around the boards.