Why does Riot seem to be so quiet about Caitlyn?

AFilthyCaitMain··3 votes·783 views

Caitlyn has been a mess since preseason began, thats no secret.

But Riot seems to not be saying anything about her ever since preseason began. Many people have asked questions about her, but it seems like theyre getting no answers.

EG: Someone on a Gameplay thoughts asked about Cait and Lucian. Lucian was the only one addressed.

Why does Riot seem to be so quiet about her?

19 Comments

Azadethe1 votes

Caitlyn is fine... I can still pull 3100 damage crits on her, her farm's still reliable, and her traps work the same as always. What's "wrong" with her?

AFilthyCaitMain2 votes

She cant bully like shes supposed to. And since she cant bully she cant snowball like shes supposed to.

She gets outpoked, tank supports can engage on her (which she HATES), she feels like she does no damage early, her poke is useless bc relic, footwork, overheal. etc.

Azadethe1 votes

She bullies hard as heck. One mistep = losing 90% of your HP vs Cait. And she's not an early game adc. She's a mid/late, and she excels at 1 shotting.

AFilthyCaitMain3 votes

If youre losing to cait in lane youre playing wrong. She hits like a wet noodle, her traps dont last long, shes easy to kill if you get a good all in going, and she doesnt start to turn on until about IE Shiv Boots RFC. Her weakest stage atm is her early, which is backed up by stat sites. even her late game, her BEST point, (40 mins+) only has a 54% winrate to go with her sub 50% winrate all game http://na.op.gg/champion/caitlyn/statistics/adc

Also tryinf to poke in this meta LUL item 3302

Azadethe1 votes

You do realize that if you actually dissect the stats, the players are choosing the wrong items, wrong runes on her? There's a HUGE subset of Caitlyns building (bots) Berserker Greaves and THEN IE rather than vice versa, and that huge subset only has a 36% win rate?

And the highest win build has a 58% win rate in about 1/10th the games as the most common 2?

You're building wrong and some are running macros.

AFilthyCaitMain1 votes

no matter what site you look on, she has a 45-47% winrate, regardless of what she builds and when

https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/platinum/plus/champion/Caitlyn/ http://champion.gg/champion/Caitlyn/ADC

also that 58% winrate has a scarily small sample size. Indicating that only mains are building that

Azadethe2 votes

Then mimic the Mains. Just because for some reason MOST Caitlyns are building a Statik Shiv on a relatively immobile adc doesn't mean it's the RIGHT choice.

I've hit 3100 crit on the current meta Cait, and I didn't have a Statik Shiv. I've also 1v3'd.

This is an example of one of those champs people are playing wrong.

P.S. As I said, the sample size of 58% is about 1/10 that of the "meta" which has 2100 games. So it's not exactly a small sample size on EITHER proportion of the stats. If it was 180 vs 24,000, I'd agree.

AFilthyCaitMain1 votes

I main cait. and I go BF>Zeal>IE>Shiv and boots somewhere in there. She still feels TERRIBLE. No matter how hard you poke they just sustain it right back up. Youve also got Aery/Comet adding onto enchanter/ap poke. Those supports outpoke the hell out of you. Then you have tank supports, who Caitlyn HATES playing against. Doesn't help that aftershock does so much damage.

I had a 68% winrate on her a bit before S7 ended. And a majority of people on /r/CaitlynMains also think shes terrible atm. Hell, even the best cait in NA (FirstTimeCaitlyn) thinks Cait is terrible rn. I dont think theyre playing cait wrong.

I think with all this statistic evidence and anecdotal evidence presented, she just not good rn.

Azadethe1 votes

They sustain it back up because you are dealing with Fleet footwork, support enchanters, and teams who know your kit well. Cait's entire gimmik is trying to kill in 1-2 seconds full HP. Land a net, with a trap behind them, and then Head Shot, and follow up after they land on trap with another Head shot. If you're trying to poke down, it doesn't matter WHAT adc you're vs; they will outheal simply because Warlord's Bloodlust *cough Fleet Footwork is back in the game.

You'll notice that the top Cait players aren't just getting Coup de Gras. They're getting Absolute focus, since Cait spends most of the game at high HP. They also get Fleet Footwork, where the "meta" players are getting Press the attack, even though Cait rarely gets in 3-4 attacks in a volley (even when trapped, Cait usually only gets in 3 attacks and has to make the most of it with a Headshot Net combo). They also Overheal vs Triumph, because Fleet Footwork is a shield battery.

Learn to not soley believe that Press the attack is good on all champs.

AFilthyCaitMain1 votes

I dont go PTA????

Also Caits gimmick is shoving lane, poking you down under tower, and rushing first tower. Which is super hard for her to DO in this meta for reasons i stated above. Her combo damage is negligible an wont kill the adc early. And if youre in range to do a full combo, their support can easily just turn out you. Shes just not good right now. VAYNE is even winning against her

Azadethe1 votes

Vayne was beating her in Season 7 too. Her traps are easy for vayne to avoid. The "Caitlyn counters Vayne" votes are a lie.

AFilthyCaitMain1 votes

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Caitlyn outranges the hell out of vayne early and can poke her everytime vayne goes for a cs. At least this is how it used to be

Azadethe1 votes

She outranges her by 100, but Vayne wins the late game/level 6. outright due to the difference in ult power.

AFilthyCaitMain1 votes

100 is a lot in bot lane. Im kind of starting to question your argument now. Every player KNOWS that Cait (should) counters Vayne.

Azadethe1 votes

Again..... it's her ult. Vayne freezes/passives until 6. You can't kill her under her own turret or she condemns you, or you get turret aggro. At 6 she bypasses your Traps with her Ult + Tumble. If she's go you into position she wall knocks before you can line up net and you're done. Turret range is longer than your auto range.

Hópe3 votes

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She bullies hard as heck. One mistep = losing 90% of your HP vs Cait. And she's not an early game adc. She's a mid/late, and she excels at 1 shotting.

..?

HaIlMonitor1 votes

I thought the last changes were to make her less of a bully?

Athenes Lulu1 votes

cuz no one likes playing with or again cait obviously kappa

so rito dont need to give a shite :-)

Rexxiee1 votes

Riot forgot that she exists.

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