With all the complaints about Ahri being too strong lately

Ionian Vulpix·May 13, 2017·5 votes·755 views

People seem to have forgotten about the other ridiculously high damage, extremely safe mid laner who brings even more utility than Ahri

14 Comments

SexualsaurusMay 13, 20177 votes

Orianna isn't extremely safe, she has no mobility and no sustain. She has a 48% winrate and 13% playrate compared to ahri's 53% winrate and 18% playrate.

Orianna is a late game teamfighting champion of course she has high damage But she isn't op.

Yaśuo MainMay 13, 20174 votes

Not to mention that her skill floor is significantly a bit higher I think.

SexualsaurusMay 13, 20171 votes

Yeah orianna requires good positioning and awareness throughout a teamfight or you'll accidentally reset your ball. You can also be way more easily punished as orianna too.

TehNACHOMay 13, 20172 votes

She's still less of a problem, statistically.

Many stat sites always put Ahri near the top from a general perspective and Ori above the middle. Not to say Ori is weak, it's just that Ahri is that strong.

MajkiMay 13, 20172 votes

Orianna requires more skill. Maybe that's why less people play her?

lolcommunity1May 13, 20172 votes

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Orianna requires more skill. Maybe that's why less people play her?

Since when is placing a ball on top of a enemy team, pressing R and W considered skill?

You tell me why Orianna has been constantly spammed in competitive play since her inception? NONE of these teams can go without picking up Orianna or Syndra. They either play or in 90% of the matchs or they ban her and no, I don't want to hear excuses that competitive and SoloQ are not the same thing.

Oh, because she has no mobility and no sustain and Ahri has better statistics. Oh, I'm sorry. I can't hear you over the sound of a 5 man shockwave.

Pro players regard Orianna as a safe champion so who is wrong here? The boards or the Pro players?

MajkiMay 13, 20172 votes

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Since when is placing a ball on top of a enemy team, pressing R and W considered skill?

Tell me a mage that doesn't have a go-to combo? Every champ is a point and click QWER. You have no argument here.

You tell me why Orianna has been constantly spammed in competitive play since her inception? NONE of these teams can go without picking up Orianna or Syndra. They either play or in 90% of the matchs or they ban her and no, I don't want to hear excuses that competitive and SoloQ are not the same thing.

Competitive play is all about control mages (being able to dish out dmg and cc consistently, not just in a burst and leave kind of way).

Oh, because she has no mobility and no sustain and Ahri has better statistics. Oh, I'm sorry. I can't hear you over the sound of a 5 man shockwave.

Your attempt to mock Orianna is futile. W provides ample mobility for her. E self for protection.

Pro players regard Orianna as a safe champion so who is wrong here? The boards or the Pro players?

No idea what you are trying to say here.

lolcommunity1May 13, 20171 votes

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Tell me a mage that doesn't have a go-to combo? Every champ is a point and click QWER. You have no argument here.

Yes I do. The difference varies from kit to kit. There is point and click, skillshots and abilities like orianna's that only require for her ball to be on top of the opponent.

Competitive play is all about control mages (being able to dish out dmg and cc consistently, not just in a burst and leave kind of way).

That doesn't excuse the fact they are the higher contested champions.

Your attempt to mock Orianna is futile. W provides ample mobility for her. E self for protection.

Command:Protect is not always for self protection. It is the one skill in her kit that can substitute Command:Attack requiring no additional setup to get the rest of her combo off.

My point is, Command:Dissonance and Command:Shockwave are NOT skill based spells. You press their corresponding keys and they activate in a radius around her ball.

No idea what you are trying to say here.

Then why did you bother quoting if you have no rebuttal?

LauchmelderMay 13, 20172 votes

I forgot that Orianna has 3 dashes. My bad.

Who is TaliyahMay 13, 20171 votes

High damage? https://i.gyazo.com/7bae667b551fe326aed783101c801d7b.png https://i.gyazo.com/311203237c58a21f3c248bc6418cd6e8.png

The screenshots happened ~40 sec apart.

Ionian VulpixMay 13, 20171 votes

Prior to the mage update, no one played Syndra though.

Who is TaliyahMay 13, 20171 votes

pre mage update syndra was the only syndra I ever played. I touched her once or twice since the update but I don't really like her now. She is no fun to play, just impossible to balance right.

weeaboomerMay 13, 20171 votes

I mean, they both are strong. What I dislike most about orianna is her Q-W......

Dale WardarkMay 13, 20171 votes

When me and my friends would play five mans, ranked or otherwise, my cousin, our midlaner, would pick Oriana because her performance with a coordinated team was absolutely stupid. However, she's not nearly as safe as Ahri and if I didn't successfully gang the lane (played JG Volibear and Hecarim) he wouldn't be doing enough late game.