Question of the day: Who has more Base health at lvl 1 and 18: A. Jayce B. Rammus C. Shen D Nasus

I'm...I'm not sure you understand champions, Sebsauve34.

Shen has a shield that scales with his maximum HP, a built-in heal, an on-hit that scales on his maximum HP, and a move that reduces incoming auto-attack damage by 50%. That's a lot of inbuilt sustain + defense, and a health-scaling damage move on a tank has high base scaling by default, especially since the cooldown drops quickly the longer he attacks.

Nasus has innate lifesteal for durability, Wither to gain a lot of survivability against auto-attacking enemies, an ultimate that grants him up to 600 bonus health, and a Q that has unlimited scaling and can easily get upwards of 400-500 bonus damage on a 2.4 second cooldown in the hands of a half-competent Nasus.

I really think you either don't understand these champions well, or you're looking at different champions. They may not be the most POWERFUL champions out there currently, but saying Shen doesn't have defenses steroids and Nasus isn't a durable character with the potential for massive damage is just patently false.

Ah, you are correct: I thought his shield scaled with maximum health. My apologies.

Regardless, the ability to have something Mikhael's'd or QSS'd doesn't make it useless. Or is any low-damage high-CC ability in the game useless by default? Because that seems to be the logical conclusion of what you've said.

Either way, I've concluded you're either making a "Jayce OP nerf Jayce" thread, or you're intentionally obtuse. So I'll take my leave and let you keep whatever opinions you may have about the game. Good day, sir! :D

Who has better AD / AS scaling and thus is significantly encouraged to build less tank and more offense, and thus ends up significantly less tanky? Jayce

Who has poor offense scaling, strong base values, innate defensive steroids, damage reduction, and/or shields to bolster their defenses hugely? Rammus and Shen

Who has an amazing way to reduce incoming auto-attack damage, as well as innate lifesteal, an Ultimate that makes him incredibly durable, and a form of damage scaling that is consistent no matter how many defensive items he buys? Nasus

And now you know why Jayce has better base and scaling health: he's not going to be building anywhere near as many defenses.

How come I knew this was a Jayce QQ thread before I even opened it?

Jayce doesn't often build much health. Nasus and Rammus do. Next you're gonna complain that most adc's have very low base AD, right?

I agree buff rammus.

Am I doing this right?

Hit me up with an "Ok"

and who has most actual health at lvl 18 sion shen jayce or nasus ? definetly not a fking jayce

Because Jayce has all those defensive steroids and scales well with defensive items amiright?

I don't see a problem here.

Kalista has more health at 18 than Morde and Nidalee way more than both.

Now who builds tanky and who builds damage? You're stupid.

But Jayce can't build any defensive item, or he'll be a wasted slot. Meanwhile, those other guys can build nothing BUT tank items and be effective.