Question of the day: Who has more Base health at lvl 1 and 18: A. Jayce B. Rammus C. Shen D Nasus

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Tryndamere is, again, not in the same class as Nasus. Are you even trying?

You still havent grasped the fact that Solo Q and 5v5's are two different things. Also, neither one of those contradict the other. You can end up with 5 intellegent players in solo q, that you can divise a plan with in champ select, while at the same time, the enemy team just randomly locks in champs. The chat is there for a reason.

You must not be able to read. I never said Nasus is supposed to "Duel" the adc. Reading comprehension will get you far on these boards. Refer to above comments, or ask any player with a decent understanding of the game, as to what a tank is supposed to do in a teamfight.

Now, back to tryndamere, he is a duelist, not a teamfighter. He does not have as much cc or utility as Nasus. However, your gonna love this, he can teamfight as well. He simply needs lockdown, which (Guess what), a lot of carries need. Leona or Malphite solve that problem. He is not a valid example against Nasus, because, as stated about Darius, they serve different purposes. However, Tryndamere is much better used as a splitpusher. He can bring alot to a teamfight.

Claiming that Nasus, Tryndamere, and Darius cannot ever be useful in teamfights is absurd. Even more so with the resurgence of Sivir, and with the addition of Righteous Glory.

You seem to think that just because a champion is amazing at one thing, they cannot be decent at another. Nasus, is good in teamfights, because he can A: Peel, B: Do lots of aoe damage, C: Do very heavy onhit damage, and D: Shred and entire team's armor allowing his Carry, who will usually be a ranged adc, to do alot more damage.

Darius, after lockdown is applied, as he is not an initiator, can A: Delete the enemy carry (If they are locked down), B: Protect his own carry (No good openings), Or C: Do as much damage as possible. Darius's typically build some tank. Again, if the focus you down, which they will have too, more breathing room for your carry.

Tryndemere's is very similar to Darius, but is not as tanky, and does not have a kit that is as burst oriented. However, his ulti gives him psuedo tank, so lets account for that. His job would be very similar to an adc, or lets say, yasuo. Deal sustained damage to whoever you can. Primarily enemy carries. As long as he is doing damage, he is being useful, as that is tryndamere's job. An added bonus is that if they focus all CC on trynda, your adc/apc should have more breathing room.

By your logic, Garen, Skarner, Volibear, Nunu and alot of other tanks/fighters are bad teamfighters. We both know not that is not true.

Now, are some of these champs more effective at split pushing? Duh. Can they teamfight if need be? Again, duh. Every champion has something they can bring to a teamfight. In a good comp, they can, and usually will be with cordination, successful. The champion, and strategy, pool is much larger than just what the pro's play. As a diamond player, i'm sure you would know that ;)

Alright lets run down, because this is giving me brain damage

First off, you can make the claim "WELL YOU MIGHT HAVE COORDINATION AND THEY WONT LOL" as many times as you like, it doesn't actually make it valid

A good teamfighter doesn't need someone to hold their hand just to enter a fight, that's completely against the definition of the word and it boggles my mind that you are so willfully ignorant to that

Tryndamere has less reliable but AoE CC, unlike Nasus, and also has way better utility. Plus Tryndamere's slow/AD reduction doesn't have to build up to the maximum, it's just 60% right off the bat for 4 seconds

You can shred armor for about 2 seconds before the target moves out of it, Trynd is dropping your entire team's AD by 80 for 4 seconds no matter what. Sounds like pretty good utility to me. In fact I'd think Trynd was a better teamfighter because his utility is AoE, while Nasus is single target.

What is 600 HP and lifesteal when you can tank an infinite amount of damage for 5 seconds? Trynd is clearly a better tank, and he can tear through front liners easily

In fact, Tryndamere even has 200 more base hp than Nasus, so Nasus has a whole 400 hp and 8 base armor to match up to Tryndamere's ult

Damage wise Trynd gets up to 35% crit chance from his passive and up to 60 AD from his Q, as well as the resetting AoE on his E, Nasus gets an average of 110+500 damage that he farms up on a 2.4 second cooldown (max CDR of course) plus his ER magic damage.

Slap IE Cleaver Visage Randuin's Merc's Thornmail on Tryndamere and suddenly he's a better teamfight tank than Nasus

And still never used for teamfights because he won't be hitting anyone

And what is Nasus going to do to peel LB off his carry? Wither her 1000 range dashes? What if Malphite + Yasuo ult his team and go for his carry? Can he chain AoE CC them like Gnar can? No. Are you going to stun one, snare the other and slow them both like Liss can? No. Can Nasus deal with Azir in a teamfight if they counterpick your Nasus lock in? No.

You say "Darius simply needs lockdown" I say "Hi I'm Janna, have fun autoattacking"

And Garen/Skarner/Volibear are garbage at teamfighting for the exact same reasons. Skarner at the very least can be used in pick comps because he can flash grab a carry instantly, the rest aren't played anywhere for a reason.

Yes, because Janna is always going to be on the enemy team 100% of the time.

This isn't getting anywhere. You argue that "What If's" are not valid for argument, but then you use one yourself.