How to fix vayne with 2 words changed

sebsauve34·Aug 19, 2015·13 votes·1,159 views

W: Silver bolts:

PASSIVE: Vayne's basic attacks and abilities mark her target with Silver Bolts for 3 seconds, stacking up to 3 times. The third stack consumes all Silver Bolts on the target to deal them true damage.

TRUE DAMAGE: 20 / 30 / 40 / 50 / 60 (+ 4 / 5 / 6 / 7 / 8% of target's maximum health)

Changed to:

PHYSICAL OR MAGIC DAMAGE : 20 / 30 / 40 / 50 / 60 (+ 4 / 5 / 6 / 7 / 8% of target's maximum health)

You're welcome Riot, glad I could help you fix such a hard to fix champion.

18 Comments

IcyPepperAug 19, 20154 votes

That would hurt squishies more than tanks.

A good nerf would be if they removed the flat true damage from silver bolts entirely, tbh.

sebsauve34Aug 19, 20151 votes

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That would hurt squishies more than tanks.

A good nerf would be if they removed the flat true damage from silver bolts entirely, tbh.

How? They will take less damage since they have base resistances rather than taking true damage.

IcyPepperAug 19, 20151 votes

No, I mean squishies would be hurt more than tanks would be in comparison.

KONO RUBICK DAAug 19, 20153 votes

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That would hurt squishies more than tanks.

A good nerf would be if they removed the flat true damage from silver bolts entirely, tbh.

good, vayne was meant to be an assassin not a tank buster.

TyaldanAug 19, 20152 votes

Not sure why this is getting downvoted. If you look at her store page it says marksman / assasin. Not Tank ripper. Just because she rips tanks with ease doesnt mean she should rip everyone with ease. Should be one or the other.

KONO RUBICK DAAug 19, 20151 votes

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Not sure why this is getting downvoted. If you look at her store page it says marksman / assasin. Not Tank ripper. Just because she rips tanks with ease doesnt mean she should rip everyone with ease. Should be one or the other.

Phreak told us in 2011 that vayne was released as an assassin, riot just had no clues of what were they doing in the past and put % hp true damage. Now they have to remove it she can't be both.

Valderis VandalaAug 19, 20152 votes

Nope, she's meant to be both, she is a ADC and a Assassin, so she is meant to kill everything and kill everything fast.

KONO RUBICK DAAug 19, 20151 votes

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Nope, she's meant to be both, she is a ADC and a Assassin, so she is meant to kill everything and kill everything fast.

and l'm sure you see how this is a shitty idea

Valderis VandalaAug 19, 20151 votes

Not really, ADC's already have this in their job description, and as fas as assassins go Vayne is kind of a shitty one. She's only really good at killing what is in front of her and has no other strengths, she adds nothing to the team, she is of no benefit to anyone.

She just comes off as punishingly hard to play against because she deals so much damage while being a bit slippery, but without that she is nothing.

Yosuke ApperuAug 19, 20152 votes

This right here is a good idea! Vayne mains always complain though and say true damage isnt the problem lol. I think changing it to magic or physical would be great to be honest. Tank buster is a really stupid idea when the champion busts everything equally...

Critmaster GarenAug 19, 20153 votes

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This right here is a good idea! Vayne mains always complain though and say true damage isnt the problem lol. I think changing it to magic or physical would be great to be honest. Tank buster is a really stupid idea when the champion busts everything equally...

the idea of a tank buster in itself is stupid. if something can bust tanks easily, the tank is not actually a tank.

Yosuke ApperuAug 19, 20151 votes

Vayne basically means you have no front line XD

LoLKiruAug 19, 20152 votes

Honestly I'd rather just remove the flat true damage on her Silver Bolts, giving it ONLY the % max health TD, keeping it relatively effective on tanks, while significantly decreasing its effectiveness on squishy opponents.

jjookkeerrAug 19, 20152 votes

id preffer chage the damage from maximum health to bonus hp

AaravosAug 19, 20151 votes

Her real issue the insane ad steroids from her ult and q. Vayne don't get punished if she builds as istead of ad. This true damage is applied on every third hit and the counter will reset if you hit another opponent. It's not the real problem. Corki can deal 30% of his ad as true damage under 3 AA and nobody crying about it.

The LovelessAug 19, 20151 votes

What if we remove the base damage and instead give her scaling true damage that starts at 2%? This way she will have to consider building actual damage instead of attack speed, resulting in less bork abuse.

Poop JellyAug 19, 20151 votes

Instead of true damage to Maximum's health, they can just change to true damage to current's health. It doesn't take away too much of what she's designed, but still nerf her damage output

UPfreelyAug 19, 20151 votes

they already said they wouldn't touch her true damage aside from maybe lowering/removing its base honestly she probably just needs some base stat nerfs