Riot: If you ever consider reworking Pantheon

Can you try to experiment with ways to make him manaless?

Now I know what you all are thinking, "Make manaless? That means he'll have infinite Q harass" and let me say that I agree that would be stupid as all holy hell. So if he was turned manaless (honestly if he gets reworked at all) then they'd have to remove the point and click spears. Because let's be honest, it's the most frustrating thing about .

So why do I want to be reworked into a manaless champion? Simple: His late game is not rewarded by mana.

Mana based champions are gated early game because they have to be careful with their combos. Hence when CDR/energy/no mana based champions have stronger early games, they do not have such limitations with their abilities and are able to bully you more. Interesting is that a lot of manaless champions are also lane bullies: (against certain champions anyway) .

Ok, not a lot, but I can't say with good understanding if champions like or are lane bullies.

The strength of mana is that by late game you have enough mana or ways to regenerate your mana quickly enough so you can do multiple combos in succession, while manaless champions don't get any ways to do their combo faster (except CDR champions like and . Though the items they need for this are since they don't use AP or mana so they can't benefit from . They need at least three items to get 40% CDR. Unless they use runes. Then we have outliers like who has an ability that lowers in cooldown based on his attack speed).

You know what is rewarded with in late game? A demotion to stun bot. Unless he is stupid fed (like 20/0 and that's only if the team doesn't somehow surrender) then he devolves into a stun bot that will most likely be the first one to die in a teamfight.

And that sucks. It's not fun. It's one of the big reasons I don't play him as much anymore (he was my first mastery rank 5 champion). Unless I can cap on my early game, I become incredibly useless. And snowballing in other lanes seems pointless since he falls off anyway, so I'm only hurting my team more by taking their kills. Then when late game comes and I've gotten a or to both deal with my mana problems and be an off-tank (which is the normal build of a fighter/assassin apparently), I can only really contribute as a stun bot.

Unless he builds full assassin, which turns him into an assassin with no escape outside of . So still likely to die first on his team.

Riot I'm only suggesting that you consider it an option if you do rework him. He's an early game powerhouse that offers very little when the game gets late. At least and can stun multiple people and benefit well from building tanky. At least has a, "I'm coming for that booty" button that makes her unstoppable. can escape from his targets. can be a threat to the enemy carry. has that true damage ult that resets on kills. basically has a clusterfuck teamfight button. A good is always noticeable due to the scaling on his ult, ward hopping, and other forms of utility.

is a stun bot. Please let the celestial incarnation of war become more than a mere stun bot after 30 minutes.