If you're going to complain that a champion is no longer unique because they are part of a new race.

Ralanr··133 votes·12,837 views

Then they never really were unique in the first place. At least not in a good way.

A character should be defined by their actions and personality more than their race. Race can be used as a good tool, but it isn't something that you can use to fully support a great character.

Ahri and Nidalee being Vastaya (and I don't believe Nid is one but whatever) actually gives the writers more room to make them unique. Rather than just making Nidalee "magical for no reason Tarzan" or Ahri "generic fox girl number 1642"

Did they have unique traits before? Yeah (at least Ahri did), traits that people seem to ignore. Ahri's character arc is about the struggle to become more human in both body and spirit. She was a monster that wanted to be human, something that we don't really see in other "monster" champions.

I'm probably going off on a rant here, point being that being in the same racial group doesn't stop a character from being "special" and being "special" because you're the only one is a poor character concept (something that teenage anime fans have to learn eventually. We all do).

Hell, even Alistar and Skarner aren't just about being the only ones of their kind left! Alistar is about his own pride costing his tribe's safety and Skarner is about rescuing his people. Race is important to them, but it's not what they are that defines them. It is what they do.

181 Comments

Sharjo99 votes

Random isn't unique. Random is inconsistent. The very existence of the vastaya brings consistency while allowing for variety.

Sahn Uzal51 votes

The Sharjo has spoken.

This discussion is over.

Sharjo24 votes

I'm "The Sharjo" now? Not sure how I feel 'bout that.

Ralanr6 votes

You'll always be "Sharjo" to me.

Sharjo7 votes

Good! I prefer it. I chose that name for a reason!

Sahn Uzal6 votes

Well, depends, how many Sharjo's are out there? :P

500000000000000017 votes

If there's a town of Sharjos he's not unique anymore ######kappa

Sharjo16 votes

The term for a group Sharjos is a menagerie of Sharjos.

Sexualsaurus41 votes

You've ascended now.

Chromatic Eagle16 votes

Is he a good ascended, or do we have to lock him up somewhere?

Sexualsaurus12 votes

Do we have to lock him up somewhere?

Probably

Glory ln Death7 votes

In the Sharjonic Archives.

A Superb Villain10 votes

Let us hope they do not forget you were once mortal. Unrealistic expectations can be quite stressful.

Sharjo8 votes

I can't possibly forget that; I find all this praise ridiculous and unsubstantiated. I'm definetly not worthy of anything being thrown at me right now. Not a chance.

A Superb Villain8 votes

That is being a bit disingenuous considering your contributions to this board; worship is a excessive, but you have certainly earned respect. You have done a great deal, Sharjo.

And a belated congratulations. I hope your passion carries you higher.

Sharjo4 votes

Thanks for the congrats, though even if it is disingenuous I do lack a lot of the confidence one should probably have in life. I'm sorta glad as it keeps me from getting arrogant but it does cause me no end of worry!

Malicious Metal3 votes

Feel powerful!

Go mad with Power!

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Sraeg201314 votes

And what's consistent about vastaya exactly?

"They are shapeshifters!... Except for those that aren't... But they are still vastaya!"

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ULTRAF0RCE1 votes

Its one group of beings that are very diverse

Sraeg20138 votes

Everybody and their grandma is a vastaya apparently, so it's... um...

Mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell?

Glory ln Death3 votes

Like it said in the research notes, it isn't like a species. "Vastaya" is a classification, perhaps not so broad as "mammal" or "insect", but broader in scope than "dog" or "human".

RiotWAAARGHbobo37 votes

Their shape is defined by magic.

In the same way our shape is defined by water.

AIIan9 votes

{quoted}

Their shape is defined by magic.

In the same way our shape is defined by water.

Sooo, Xerath is a Vastaya ? When a word is so broad it means everything, then it means nothing.

DarkRitual4 votes

When a word is so broad it means everything, then it means nothing.

Well fuck

Sexualsaurus39 votes

70% Magic and 30% Meat, like a Big Mac from McDonalds?

Bladerunner77778 votes

Veigar:

1% evil

99% hot gas

Sexualsaurus5 votes

Thresh:

98% Evil

2% lucian's wife

HowPlayGAEM10 votes

{quoted}

Their shape is defined by magic.

In the same way our shape is defined by water.

???

What does this even mean.

Our shape is defined by many years of evolutionary history and the physical environmental conditions on earth.

Ralanr8 votes

We're 70% water, they're 70% magic.

That's my take on it.

RiotWAAARGHbobo14 votes

we are animals that evolved from sea creatures. Our physical form, our lungs, everything is build FROM modifying a sea creature into a land creature-- The sea is still what our core design is from. Magic.

nosafterburn13 votes

Please. I came from space dust bro.

Baron of Bread19 votes

I don't understand the analogy. I get we are primarily water, but it has very little influence on our body's macro-structure. What part of this am I misunderstanding?

Terozu8 votes

Without water, all humans would die, I assume that if they were to enter somewhere with anti magic, say, Demacia, they would become lifeless husks. God that's disturbing...

kile1476 votes

Probably for lore reasons more likely it would be like a human entering a desert. The magic that gives them shape would slowly dry up causing them to slowly come apart. Would be boring if a vastaya would just immediately die upon being exposed to anti-magic.

Gapybo20 votes

It's not even a race. From what I gathered it's a very broad term for a large variety of different creatures that share some sort of connection to specific type of magic and a common ancestor. Can't compare them to humans, maybe mammals would be more fitting.

Fondling Gems6 votes

Yeah, it falls closer to a Phylum which is several steps above species (and therefore race) and only one step below kingdom. Basically we can organize them more accurately than just animal/plant/bacteria, but we can't sort them much more accurately than that.

Heck, I am not even sure they fall into a phylum. Depends on how strange they get. Currently they all appear to be vertabrae which means based on our current knowledge they can be organized as a class or even order. However if invertebrate vastaya exist then the vastaya stand outside of a phylum and are a new kingdom in and of themselves.

500000000000000013 votes

The guy described them as order or phylum, so that's a pretty accurate comparison.

rtbf22561824114 votes

I'm pretty sure the reason the new champion at least is considered generic is because it's another animalistic-bird-like champion who will be trying to utilize the potential that was not used on Quinn/Kindred or even Anivia for that matter.

4th3t0s2 votes

Azir ?

rtbf22561824110 votes

His looks aren't aesthetically organic in any way whatsoever. He's a walking reference to Egyptian gods just like Nasus and Renekton and he is covered in gold armor.

Velzard of Koz13 votes

If people no longer like champ's style because they have different race... . . They are basically racist... . . We need Social Justice Warrior skin for Garen. Now!!!

Hella Kaiser3 votes

social justice urgot based on trigglypuff

Big Lincoln6 votes

vastaya are borin tho

Ralanr22 votes

All a matter of opinions man. I found the idea of Darkin being a near extinct race of winged humanoids as fun as watching paint dry.

I guess people think it's popcorn worthy to watch paint dry, but not my interest.

DarkfireAM4 votes

The Champion hasn't even come out yet for god sakes. How can you criticize something you haven't even really seen?

Big Lincoln4 votes

looks like weeb pandering

if it's not a giant monster, manly man or muscle waifu then i don't give a fuck

Mira Arya Enthe10 votes

If it's a giant monster, steroid man or testosterone girl I don't give a fuck. It's almost like Riot has more than one type of person in their audience.

Sraeg20136 votes

The joke is, it's not even a race, more like a phylum.

Everybody and their grandma is a Vastaya.

Frankly, I'm surprised people aren't calling Shyvana a "vastaya", because a clearly unrelated Nidalee is labelled as such.

Hell, even Alistar and Skarner aren't just about being the only ones of their kind left!

Obviously. They are vastaya too.

Skarner is about rescuing his people

What, did they retcon him again?

GreenLore5 votes

{quoted}

Frankly, I'm surprised people aren't calling Shyvana a "vastaya", because a clearly unrelated Nidalee is labelled as such.

Actually Nidalee isn't so obvious,as it mentions that some Vastaya look completely human and instead have the chance to shapeshift.

What, did they retcon him again?

They once replaced his lore with a short lore during the time of Azirs release.And when Taliyah came out they revealed his full bio+color text.

Sraeg20132 votes

Actually Nidalee isn't so obvious,as it mentions that some Vastaya look completely human and instead have the chance to shapeshift.

A Rioter just described vestaya as "magic defines their form". Which means that like 80% of champions are vestaya.

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