Just make Ryze W into a slow already

NodirjonSattarov··8 votes·4,368 views

I would rather have a 1s slow, up more often, than a .75 root

especially since it doesn't truly root or wait to apply the debuff after displacement

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Elite4Runner6 votes

Ryze W changed from a 1 second stun to a 99.999999% slow for 1 second.

Done!

Tristanl0l1 votes

thresh has a 99% slow. Slows are capped or something, because walking through box doesnt drop to you 3-4 movespeed

wolvius1 votes

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thresh has a 99% slow. Slows are capped or something, because walking through box doesnt drop to you 3-4 movespeed

I think the slowest you can go is 115 or so. 90% slows are just to fuck over champs with move speed boosts

Rıots Bad Client2 votes

what about a slow for 1.5 seconds for 30-40-50-60-70% that cancels most dashes(much like veigar) and when the enemy uses an movement ability (Such as lucian dash or ezreal blink) they'll stun them selfs instead.

wolvius1 votes

I think they tried some iteration of ryze on PBE earlier this year where his W was changed to a slow and empowered W was still a stun. I think they also made it restore mana so that he would be more vulnerable to gank or all ins.

Don't know why it was completely scraped though.

NodirjonSattarov1 votes

Did they increase the CD? Because at rank 1 its 13s and at 20% CDR its about 10s so it really don't make him that susceptible to ganks compared to other mages with much longer CD. I would honestly like this change much more since soloQ nets me 0 allied blue buffs per game

wolvius1 votes

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Did they increase the CD? Because at rank 1 its 13s and at 20% CDR its about 10s so it really don't make him that susceptible to ganks compared to other mages with much longer CD. I would honestly like this change much more since soloQ nets me 0 allied blue buffs per game

I think they did slightly increase its CD, their intention was to make using W necessary to get mana so he couldn't just hold onto it thus make him more vulnerable.

http://www.surrenderat20.net/p/89-pbe-cycle.html?m=1#notes2 This should show all the changes they had planned. Its patch 8.9 if link doesn't work and their was some follow up in 8.10

Oleandervine1 votes

Or, just make it a skill shot and leave the root alone. There is absolutely no reason whatsoever that it needs to be targeted.

NodirjonSattarov1 votes

Make Irelia Q a skill shot instead of a reset-able point n click dash/damage/sustain ability

Oleandervine2 votes

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Make Irelia Q a skill shot instead of a reset-able point n click dash/damage/sustain ability

Her Q is more balanced as a targetable spell since that means she cannot use it to escape, dash over walls, and other such bullshit.

Ryze's W is much different in that it's the unhealthiest part of his kit that Riot has repeatedly refused to change. If they want to keep it a root, they need to make it a skill shot.

NodirjonSattarov1 votes

Her kit makes it to where she doesn’t need to escape. She can fight and win almost any champion.

Kídá1 votes

W has always been problematic since its a point and click instant CC.

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