I Just Had to Put Up With A Rumble Top That Had Less Than 6 Second CD On Flamethrower FROM THE START

FUUUBAAAR·Oct 13, 2019·1 votes·1,413 views

Title says it all, less than 6 seconds between Rumble's flamethrower running out, and turning back on. Due to me being a slower base move speed champ there was no outrunning him, no contesting his free waveclear and damage even when I hid under turret, and he basically carried his team to a free win by pressing one button on the keyboard over and over.

Is this seriously something RIOT's balance team let make it into the game, or did someone figure out how to use cheat programs in league? Frankly if it's the first one, I'm out, uninstalling, straw that broke the camel's back etc. (straight up free win waveclear AND harass in one ability? Really? This CAN'T be legit, can it?).

I'm posting here hoping to god I missed something, and that some kind soul will please explain to me what, since the in-client references to champion abilities are very poor descriptions that often lack multiple important details (such as actual stats for an ability's damage, cooldown times, etc.).

If it IS legitimately just that he has this much abusively broken damage, do we at least have an ETA on the incoming Rumble nerfs?

8 Comments

BladeSteelOct 13, 20197 votes

So you lost against a rumble and call for nerfs? How about you learn how to play against him before yelling for nerfs(for a champion that really doesn’t need nerfs)You were playing teemo, a ranged top laner who has a 52-53% (currently one of the best top laners), against a melee top laner that has a 48-49% winrate and are asking for nerfs for the champion with a lowet winrate? Learn to play instead of whining because you lost to a better player.

FUUUBAAAROct 14, 20191 votes

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So you lost against a rumble and call for nerfs? How about you learn how to play against him before yelling for nerfs(for a champion that really doesn’t need nerfs)You were playing teemo, a ranged top laner who has a 52-53% (currently one of the best top laners), against a melee top laner that has a 48-49% winrate and are asking for nerfs for the champion with a lowet winrate? Learn to play instead of whining because you lost to a better player.

How about YOU actually watch the replay so you can see him literally just walk in, flame for free farm and damage, and walk out, then immediately chase me down at nearly twice my move speed when he didn't even have boots? I asked for honest discussion and extra info about the champion, BECAUSE I WAS CERTAIN that unless the player found a way to cheat and make his cooldowns nearly 0, I must be missing info about his kit (crappy ability descriptions in client are still crappy after all), some mechanic or feature that balances out his insane free damage with no resource costs. That wasn't a "call for nerf omg i lost so it's broken" post, it was me pointing out there's got to be something that makes the sheer damage spam ok, because otherwise they would already BE nerfing it and I'm hoping to find out what it is. So please take your attempts to start a flame-war elsewhere, as SOME of us are actually using these boards to discuss the game and try to get better understandings of the various parts of it.

BladeSteelOct 14, 20194 votes

Your entire attitude in your post is saying "Wah I lost, when r Rumble nerfs, GIVE RUMBLE NERFS OR I QUIT". That is why I'll speak plainly and clearly to you. I don't have to watch it. I just have to look at the match to see how little you actually know about the game. A)You rushed Seraphs....as teemo. NEVER do that. It is a bad item for teemo. B)You had 0 extra mr. Teemo has a base mr of 30. You didn't even take mr runes. Rumble rushes magic pen, so after his 33 magic pen, you essentially had negative mr. C) He had boots before you did. We can see when items were bought, did you know that? He had base boots at 4 min, and upgraded boots at 9 min. You had base boots at 3 min, and upgraded boots at 11. So just from that, we know you don't have an accurate remembrance of what happened. D) https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Rumble has all the information on his abilities. His q has a 10/9/8/7/6 second cooldown, and is active for 3 of those seconds. He also does 50% more damage if his heat is above 50 (the halfway point) Essentially, if you itemized better, you wouldn't have this problem.

And to talk about how you're just calling for nerfs. I quote :

Is this seriously something RIOT's balance team let make it into the game, or did someone figure out how to use cheat programs in league? Frankly if it's the first one, I'm out, uninstalling, straw that broke the camel's back etc

That is just you complaining about a middle ground winrate champ. He isn't really good right now, and honestly if he was good he would be played in Worlds, since he has an amazing teamfight ult (as he has been in past years)

If it IS legitimately just that he has this much abusively broken damage, do we at least have an ETA on the incoming Rumble nerfs?

He doesn't need nerfs. Teemo will probably be getting nerfed before Rumble is, and that is who you played. Teemo actually has a 57% winrate against Rumble.

YOU GOT OUTPLAYED. Learn from it. Buy magic resistance, AND take magic resistance runes instead of bonus health (especially since its 15 bonus health at lv 1, not really going to help you as much as the 6 magic resistance. If you had taken that instead, you would still be positive when Rumble buys his 2 magic pen items instead of negative)

And above all else ACTUALLY TRY TO PLAY AS RUMBLE BEFORE YOU COMPLAIN. Coming to the boards and whining that he "does too much damage, and if he wasn't cheating then I quit the game" does nothing to help you. It just gives anyone who looks a reason to laugh at you. If you want to learn how to play against a champion, play as that champion. Learn what they do.

FUUUBAAAROct 14, 20191 votes

Well then, thank you for the bits of information you DID provide in between all those "oh I know so much better than you here's why now go learn to play" insult paragraphs, and while I feel I should have had more move speed than him with the base boots and Teemo's move speed boost (once I got it), but double-checking the math adds up to it not being the case, so my mistake.

I'll also admit that yeah, my OP did sound pretty harsh, being already debating re-quitting for several reasons (undesirable community members that are more focused on showing how much better/smarter than each other they are instead of actually behaving like decent human beings and general sense of repetition, among other things) and coming off a full tilt (resulting from multiple crappy matches that had hard flamers, inters, or other kinds of general toxic jagoff in them, or even just being stuck against premade 4 and 5 man teams of mostly if not all m7 users for their respective champions while being one of only two or three people on my own team who even HAVE mastery for theirs) and yeah, I was swayed a bit by some of my teammates' comments such as "rumble is so broken rn", as well as the general rumor I keep hearing about resistances being near-meaningless now and there being way too much damage in the game (Hence why I tried to build Seraph's for the shield to hopefully mitigate some of that damage). THIS IS NOT me saying folks should go insult/harass said teammates or people with those opinions next, just to be clear.

Tilted or not though, I did actually come to the boards to learn more before making my decision, since coming back from my last break was honestly a pain in the arse and I wasn't sure continuing to play was even worth it, seeing as one seems to need to do quite a bit of research just to play the game without getting gimmicked to death over and over or ultimately losing to someone else's copy-pasted build they saw someone else who also plays that champ use for it's raw stat power.

As for "actually trying to play as rumble before I complain" I'd be happy to, if I could just magically have the B.E. to unlock him or he was on rotation right now.

P.S. Is wiki actually considered a trustworthy info source these days? Back when I was in school all the teachers expressly forbade using it to gather your info because any random schmuck could "edit" any bs they wanted into any topic you looked up, though it might be different by now. I suppose I'll go check.

BladeSteelOct 14, 20192 votes

If you had actually asked for information to improve, then I would have treated you better. However you came across as a ranter, crying for nerfs, and saying "imma quit if this isn't getting nerfed".The only time you asked about information was

This CAN'T be legit, can it? If it IS legitimately just that he has this much abusively broken damage, do we at least have an ETA on the incoming Rumble nerfs?

Both of which come off as "I just lost the game and so I'm coming to the boards to whine and call for nerfs"

If you had said "hey guys, I just lost against a Rumble, he swept the floor with me, any advice on how to fight him for next time?" You would have had tons of people responding. However you decided for the Whiny route, leading to a harsher answer because people don't like whiny, as it means immature, and noone likes to deal with immaturity.

And yes, the LOL Wiki is updated fairly frequently. However, the best way to learn is to play as said champion. Rumble will be on free week eventually (he was free most recently, the week of Sept 10), and before that there are tons of videos on youtube of people playing rumble.

FUUUBAAAROct 15, 20191 votes

I DID ask for information, in both original post and my reply to your first comment. You showed up in a moment if tilt/impared judgement for me and instead of contributing helpfully, you slammed me and showed off while keeping it low-key to avoid any obvious report-able content. Something I see a lot of upon checking your post history. "would have treated you better?" yeah, right.

BladeSteelOct 15, 20192 votes

Where? Quote where you kindly "asked for information".

And I don't need to treat you super kindly when you're in a moment of tilt/impared judgement. If you can't create an actual post where you ask for help instead of calling for nerfs and threatening to quit, then don't create a post at all. I'm not going to wade through your bull crap to look for the "help" you're asking for (since the majority of it is calling for nerfs)

FUUUBAAAROct 17, 20191 votes

"I'm posting here hoping to god I missed something, and that some kind soul will please explain to me what, since the in-client references to champion abilities are very poor descriptions that often lack multiple important details (such as actual stats for an ability's damage, cooldown times, etc.)."

LITERALLY RIGHT IN FIRST POST. Good day =)