There is no zed nerf on the PBE

You could just remove his ability to swap with his shadows. He'd be a lot more balanced right there. Feel free to give him more power after that, but at least he won't be able to tower dive and get out without a scratch anymore.

I strongly feel a reactivation time on LeBlanc W would help bring her in line a lot while retaining her damage. As is currently, even if you read her dash correctly, due to the cast time of abilities she will still land and blink back before AOE/non-targeted casting abilities resolve. There's no incentive to try and predict but have a lottery shot you get the timing right. It's an intensely skewed dynamic where LeBlanc's enemy needs an expotential more amount of input to counter act what she does.

I was just about to ask the same thing, thanks for taking that into consideration, i've been proposing this change to LeBlanc since ever and I'm glad you are looking into it :)

Finally I'll be able to react about getting one-shot :D

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Really proficient Zeds currently get their burst combo off on a target extremely quickly (0.25-0.5 seconds at a very rough guess), so this is adding a noticeable amount of extra time in which Zed can attacked by his victim or their nearby allies. His damage shouldn't be affected, so he'll still get the kill if he was going to previously, but he'll be at greater risk of dying for it, so will either have to pick his engages more selectively or be willing to trade himself for the target sometimes.

How much of a power change that results in is open to debate of course, I'd certainly expect to see some drop in his performance though, especially as people adapt to the change.

Why don't you hit something else, like his waveclear? It's been his biggest problem for the longest time; someone with (less now) risky and unguaranteed assassination being able to farm like crazy instead of snowballing off kills

You guys did this to him before as well with the W speed nerf, all it really does is push him out of the meta for a bit and make him less enjoyable to play before he comes back again

And finally: What brought this on? LB is played significantly more in competitive games, and has a higher ban rate in solo queue, as well as being safer in general. Why isn't she the guinea pig?

Wouldn't this result in a much more feast-or-famine Zed? In order to get off a kill without dying, he'd need to pick off a target that is fully unable to kill him in response and does not have anyone nearby to stop him from getting away. This means that he'd need to be either fed or against a low-CC team, which seems like it'll result in a Zed that's either hoping to make a 4v4 or simply snowballing. That seems unhealthy. I'm left thinking about the rationale for changes (and sometimes the lack thereof) for Shaco, Talon, and LeBlanc.

This change is well deserved. But imo you shouldn't stop to this, giving the occasion you could also reduce the potential to farm freely, that shouldn't be a thing for assassins. Maybe making the passive to not work on minions, or reducing the dmg dealt by abilities on minions, making last-hit less easier. Rigth now is too easy for Zed to farm and remain in lane even if zoned well. In exchange for this changes you could always buff him on the assassin side, like dmg on champions, cooldowns and such.

Would you consider giving a 1-second global cooldown on his ability casts and recasts (similar to and )? The latter two need them because of their stance dancing, but if Zed's problem is that he can just pile on his entire combo in under a 1-second window, rather than over the 3 seconds allowed by his ult, wouldn't the ideal solution be to force his ability sequence to be more spaced out? It would also telegraph his laning poke pattern a bit better, since a common source of frustration comes from his instant long-range Living Shadow + Razor Shuriken combo, which has a lot in common with 's Help Pix + Glitterlance poke that got her mana costs increased. This would be a huge nerf in itself, but would also allow Zed to go absolutely nuts elsewhere (more Living Shadows in combat, for example).

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Really proficient Zeds currently get their burst combo off on a target extremely quickly (0.25-0.5 seconds at a very rough guess), so this is adding a noticeable amount of extra time in which Zed can attacked by his victim or their nearby allies. His damage shouldn't be affected, so he'll still get the kill if he was going to previously, but he'll be at greater risk of dying for it, so will either have to pick his engages more selectively or be willing to trade himself for the target sometimes.

How much of a power change that results in is open to debate of course, I'd certainly expect to see some drop in his performance though, especially as people adapt to the change.

It's going to be the end of Zed because he'll almost always up getting chain CC'd, which will make him unable to deal damage. So yeah, be ready to buff him real quick.

i main zed so i don't really thinkif the nerf is good because zed is great at tower diving because when u let and land your combo u switch back to your shadow and barely take damage and yea it might take longer than 1 sec to do your combo but if you miss your q when your turret diving and u know your deathmark won't kill them u want to be able to switch back to your shadow and take barely any damage and re position your self but if it has a 1 sec delay if you tower dive and miss u would have to wait 1 sec under the turret to switch back to your shadow so i don't think he is as powerful now because of the nerf because as i mention he is great at ult ing people under their turret and taking barely any damage but if u miss your q u and u know its over u want to be able to switch back to your shadow not under the turret so i really disagree with this nerf

There are many batchups that are bad for zed. Ahri is a physical counter but she is not unbeatable. for most matchups, it's all about timing. For instance, Azir can mess up zed's ult. As soon as Zed ult's, Pop Emperor's divide directly begind you. the cast time is just enough to knock zed far bac and then you can use your WQE combo to bend a soldier and escape. faker vs febivetried it but messed up the timing... that's not zed's problem, it's the opposing champion's miss. this way they are actively lowering the skill cap of the AP mids... you now need less skill to counter a champion that already has enough counterplay.

A little contradictory, don't you think?

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Sounds like you were disappointed...JS...

Not really no. I read the PBE updates religiously because i have no life and couldnt remember there being any.